KQs turn line

AZplaya · #1 10-08-2007, 02:04 PM

Villian is a 65/25 aggro spewmonkey.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $13.50
CO: $41.25
BTN: $17.25
SB: $95.90
BB: $58.10
Hero (UTG): $49.50

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $1.75, MP calls $1.75, CO calls $1.75, BTN folds, SB calls $1.50, BB folds

Flop: ($7.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, MP folds, CO calls $5, SB folds

Turn: ($17.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $9.50, CO raises to $34.50 and is All-In, Hero calls $25

Standard?
Anyone like a c/r ai better?

Brian O'Nolan · #2 10-08-2007, 02:10 PM

Don't like your turn play... is he really shoving over your weak lead with 56 that often? I think this is a fold given your line, maybe not. If you are gonna lead here I think it has to be a standard lead... you have K hi, you don't want to induce a bluffshove here. Much prefer a CRAI.

bozzer · #3 10-08-2007, 02:20 PM

my line would mostly be to check/eval flop 4way OOP.

as played, CRAI is much better against aggro spewmonkey but it's kind of marginal IMO - worth it just for some rebluffing when he has to fold to the shove.

if you bet the turn (which isn't terrible but isn't great vs this player imo), bet more.

hennnerz · #4 10-08-2007, 02:23 PM

I would CR AI on this turn.

kaz2107 · #5 10-08-2007, 03:17 PM

god u always pussy foot around on the turn. i bet like 14ish and call a shove. it gives us better FE against his range and also gives us an easier call when he shoves as we will b gettin redic odds. ur bet of 10 or w.e is like in the middle of crai and bet calling imo and i dont like it as much as i think u r missing out on some extra fe and also cutting his bluffing frequency down too.

the positive from betting is inceased FE and the positive from crai is he will bluff the turn sometimes. i think u lose some of both of these when u make this bet. thus makin it less profitable

ryang · #6 10-08-2007, 04:30 PM

i think the flop bet is fine even tho i think c/c flop is fine too. i would c/c turn or c/r ai, how are you doing at 50nl? i play with you a lot.

AZplaya · #7 10-08-2007, 04:56 PM

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how are you doing at 50nl? i play with you a lot.

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in the middle of a 20K breakeven right now. Ran at 6BB/100 for 20K b4 that.

btw your avatar made me shoot rasberry arizona ice tea out of my nose.

Kasane · #8 10-08-2007, 05:30 PM

I would go ahead and bet the flop -- maybe a tad harder because I'm perfectly happy getting it in right there with anyone who challenges me with a raise.

crai on turn would seem to be a poor option to me, villain's stack is too awkward. not having a made hand here, even with all our outs, is sucky when he has to call with any Jx.

I'd rather bet the turn hard and call a raise.

wslee00 · #9 10-08-2007, 05:45 PM

i bet flop and turn harder - why the weak bet on the turn? was it specifically to induce a shove from villain when he has air???

ryang · #10 10-08-2007, 05:48 PM

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how are you doing at 50nl? i play with you a lot.

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in the middle of a 20K breakeven right now. Ran at 6BB/100 for 20K b4 that.

btw your avatar made me shoot rasberry arizona ice tea out of my nose.

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OMG I'M DRINKING RASBERRY ARIZONA AS WELL, TALL BOY ONE, 99C???? LOL