JJ turn 2nd nuts and get c/r. Reasonable to slow down ?

BubbleMint · #1 10-03-2007, 04:47 PM

Only 2nd orbit, no significant reads.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, Button calls, SB caps, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: (20.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets, BB calls, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, Button calls, SB calls $1.50 (All-In), BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (17 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players, 1 all-in)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, Button raises $7 (All-In), BB 3-bets, UTG folds, Hero calls.

River: (22.16 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players, 2 all-in)
BB bets, Hero......

sethypooh21 · #2 10-03-2007, 04:56 PM

3rd nuts, but I probably cap turn and just call the river UI.

BubbleMint · #3 10-03-2007, 05:06 PM

3rd nuts, you are right, was just playing this back in Poker Tracker and didnt figure the 5,6 at the time.

Stealthy · #4 10-03-2007, 05:41 PM

With the cold-call of the cap pre his hand is way more likely to be 44, 77 or 88. I cap that turn and probably cap the river too but may only raise and call 3 bet depending on spidey sense.

sethypooh21 · #5 10-03-2007, 05:52 PM

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With the cold-call of the cap pre his hand is way more likely to be 44, 77 or 88. I cap that turn and probably cap the river too but may only raise and call 3 bet depending on spidey sense.

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While the cold cap is more likely a pocket pair, I think that the fact that there are vastly more combos of 65 and 98 available make me not want to go crazy on the river.

Tryptamean · #6 10-03-2007, 05:55 PM

This hand is crazy. Def cap turn and just calling river is pretty reasonable

Stealthy · #7 10-03-2007, 05:57 PM

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With the cold-call of the cap pre his hand is way more likely to be 44, 77 or 88. I cap that turn and probably cap the river too but may only raise and call 3 bet depending on spidey sense.

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While the cold cap is more likely a pocket pair, I think that the fact that there are vastly more combos of 65 and 98 available make me not want to go crazy on the river.

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Do 65s and 89s get cap cold called in limit? Just interested if players are really bad enough to do that?

Tryptamean · #8 10-03-2007, 06:06 PM

Yes, they are

sethypooh21 · #9 10-03-2007, 06:18 PM

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With the cold-call of the cap pre his hand is way more likely to be 44, 77 or 88. I cap that turn and probably cap the river too but may only raise and call 3 bet depending on spidey sense.

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While the cold cap is more likely a pocket pair, I think that the fact that there are vastly more combos of 65 and 98 available make me not want to go crazy on the river.

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Do 65s and 89s get cap cold called in limit? Just interested if players are really bad enough to do that?

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Who said they had to be suited?

BubbleMint · #10 10-03-2007, 06:24 PM

Does anybody think that villain c/r into an otherwise dry side pot makes his hand more or less likely to be strong ?

Is reading anything into this overcomplicated thinking ?

Edit to add

Are we capping tuen because it can only cost us 2BB to showdown ? If it was a 5 bet cap, do we 4 bet ?