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10-02-2007, 05:44 AM
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200NL: DEEP and in position vs aggro 2p2\'er
Villan is 20/17/3.6 and I've been pretty tight, except against one Monkey (not in this hand). I think villain and I have an understanding that we're there for the monkey's money and not vs e/o, but w/e.
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $745.60 BB: $498.75 UTG: $268.10 MP: $220.95 CO: $203.25 SFC (BTN): $876.90 Preflop: SFC is dealt X X (6 Players) <font color="red">UTG raises to $7.00</font>, 2 folds, SFC calls $7.00, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $32.00</font>, UTG calls $25.00, SFC calls $25.00 Flop: ($97) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players) BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">SFC bets $72.00</font>, BB calls $72.00, UTG folds Turn: ($241) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) BB checks, <font color="red">SFC ???</font> What range do we put me and villain on here and what's our play on turn with: A: AKo B: AKd C: 22/33 D: 99-KK E: AA 
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#2
10-02-2007, 05:47 AM
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Re: 200NL: DEEP and in position vs aggro 2p2\'er
if you have anything other than 22/33/MAYBEEE 45, your flop bet is gross, if you have 99-QQ, you might as well stop playing [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. AKo and AKdd are the same based on the flop, and I can't believe you don't just shove when it comes to you the second time with either of those(that would be a good play), but if you did play it like this with those hands, I'd still check behind flop. Villian most likely has AQ/AJ and is going to stack off on the turn. I don't really see how else this plays out
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10-02-2007, 05:49 AM
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Re: 200NL: DEEP and in position vs aggro 2p2\'er
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if you have anything other than 22/33/MAYBEEE 45, your flop bet is gross, if you have 99-QQ, you might as well stop playing [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. AKo and AKdd are the same based on the flop, and I can't believe you don't just shove when it comes to you the second time with either of those(that would be a good play), but if you did play it like this with those hands, I'd still check behind flop. Villian most likely has AQ/AJ and is going to stack off on the turn. I don't really see how else this plays out [/ QUOTE ] Why is betting as I did "gross" with AK here? What am I missing?
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#4
10-02-2007, 05:51 AM
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Re: 200NL: DEEP and in position vs aggro 2p2\'er
I changed those to not gross if you continued reading [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. They are ok to bet, I just don't see how you get there to begin with, and why you want to bet this dry of a flop when your hand is so ridiculously disguised. I'd rather check and then shove over a turn bet to make it look utterly ridiculous
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#5
10-02-2007, 05:53 AM
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Re: 200NL: DEEP and in position vs aggro 2p2\'er
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I changed those to not gross if you continued reading [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. They are ok to bet, I just don't see how you get there to begin with, and why you want to bet this dry of a flop when your hand is so ridiculously disguised. I'd rather check and then shove over a turn bet to make it look utterly ridiculous [/ QUOTE ] Not all of us have that aggromonkey image though.... And how are all the above hands 'so ridiculously disguised'? UTG, who is a decent TAG raised, so we just call in position...noone ever does this with AK?
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#6
10-02-2007, 05:55 AM
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Re: 200NL: DEEP and in position vs aggro 2p2\'er
You flatcall an UTG raise then overcall a 3 bet. Hard to put you on a big ace there or even a big pair. So your range is most likely small-medium PPs and SCs, i think calling pf because you think you have huge implied odds against UTG?
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#8
10-02-2007, 06:00 AM
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Re: 200NL: DEEP and in position vs aggro 2p2\'er
So basically you're saying I have 22 or 33, or 45 here.
Interesting. If that's the case, how do we play the flop and turn then?
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10-02-2007, 06:07 AM
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Re: 200NL: DEEP and in position vs aggro 2p2\'er
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So basically you're saying I have 22 or 33, or 45 here. Interesting. If that's the case, how do we play the flop and turn then? [/ QUOTE ] What I'm saying is that villain has AK,AQ,AJ,KK,QQ and is just going to c/c his stack off because "hey looked i checked to induce i have to call now," and you're just going to burn money here bluffing. I would value bet any ace here, tbh.
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