NL50 KK Ahi monotone flop vs shorty

checktheriver · #1 10-02-2007, 01:17 PM

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MP ($6.70)
CO ($12.75)
Button ($25.55)
SB ($31.70)
Hero ($39.10)
UTG ($14.05)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $3.5, CO calls $2.50.

Flop: ($7.10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Villain just sat down so no reads. What do you do here ? check/fold, bet/call or crai hoping he just has a high heart enough (given that the Ah is out this seems to be a small part of his range)?

Milky · #2 10-02-2007, 01:47 PM

I think either betting pot or just shoving would be okay here since he's a shortie. Checking here would be horrible. Folding here would be horrible here too. Try to get it all-in here.

DonManuel · #3 10-02-2007, 01:54 PM

I don't think that betting out is profitable. I'd check and watch:

If he bets, I'd call and lead a heart turn, probably c/f a non-heart turn.

If he checks, I'd lead the turn regardless of the suit.

monkeymaps · #4 10-02-2007, 02:04 PM

just IME checking here always seems to induce a push for some reason.

Any reads on villan?

does pushing ever get called by a worse hand here?
Push is pretty much a bluff unless we have a read that villan is pretty bad.

this is close Between a c/f or push I think c/c is prob the worst.

DonManuel · #5 10-02-2007, 02:15 PM

CO has $10.25 behind on a $7.10 pot

I think pushing only gets called by a hand that beats us. I'd really want to see a turn

guitarizt · #6 10-02-2007, 02:56 PM

I'd check because I don't think he's betting the flop with something like QhJd, or 88. If he shoves I fold. If a heart hits the turn I'm giving up. I'd probably crai on a non heart turn because I don't think he'd check an ace on the flop or call preflop with an ace, but I'm hoping he checks the turn again. I'm thinly value betting a non heart river. $3 into a $7.10 pot at the most. I think I like a bet of $2 or $2.75 because $2.75 seems so much less than $3.

Daniel LeClaire · #7 10-02-2007, 03:08 PM

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just IME checking here always seems to induce a push for some reason.

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Same. I do this a lot against very short stacks. I reraise with a big pair, flop comes ace high, I check/snap call. You will see all sorts of stuff.

I would check here to induce a bluff, although I don't think it really matters what you do (just don't fold).