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Old 09-30-2007, 03:20 PM
BrassMonkey BrassMonkey is offline
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Default Two pair on the river - line check

Villian is obviously an open-limping donkey. Draw-heavy turn is hard to fold. River donk standard, or go for c/r?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, SB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, SB folds, Hero calls.

River: (7 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11 BB
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Old 09-30-2007, 03:40 PM
Bruce D Bruce D is offline
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Default Re: Two pair on the river - line check

I go for a c/r here depending on villain's aggression. The problem is when you get 3 bet, you want to cry, but you miss value when he checks behind when you go for the check raise.

Your original line is probably better, because when you get raised here, it will be from worse hands often enough to make a bet correct.

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Old 09-30-2007, 03:53 PM
shane88888 shane88888 is offline
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Default Re: Two pair on the river - line check

UTG shows T9s?

I like the bet/call on the river. Even though your hand is disguised (since you are BB), I still like a bet.
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Old 09-30-2007, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: Two pair on the river - line check

turn call?
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Old 09-30-2007, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: Two pair on the river - line check

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turn call?

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It's really gotten to the point on Stars where turn raises mean jackshit a large percentage of the time. Believe me, I WANT to fold this - I've just seen too many [censored] moves lately. Also, the board is very draw-heavy.
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Old 09-30-2007, 07:03 PM
ILOVEPOKER929 ILOVEPOKER929 is offline
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Default Re: Two pair on the river - line check

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turn call?

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It's really gotten to the point on Stars where turn raises mean jackshit a large percentage of the time. Believe me, I WANT to fold this - I've just seen too many [censored] moves lately. Also, the board is very draw-heavy.

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Brass I think you need more of a specific read to justify the turn call. For instance, If you had seen too many [censored] moves from the villain, then I like your turn play. Then again youve been playing at the table with this guy and if something inside you says you should call here (Blink effect) then I can accept that, but I dont like the line of reasoning you gave to Miles.

BTW I would lean towards betting the river becuz I am not certain this guy will bet with a hand like JT given the bad river card from his perspective. If villain raises I would call.
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Old 09-30-2007, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: Two pair on the river - line check

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turn call?

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Huge pot, gotta call turn.
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Old 09-30-2007, 06:57 PM
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Default Re: Two pair on the river - line check

Pot is small enough that you can fold the turn imo.
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