25NL QQ in 4bet pot

RapidEvolution · #1 10-12-2007, 11:12 AM

Villain is 20/7/10 over 70 hands and seems solid. What range do you give a player with these stats for 4betting preflop?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($24.20)
Button ($19.10)
SB ($7.90)
BB ($44.30)
UTG ($26.95)
UTG+1 ($32.10)
Hero ($36.10)
MP2 ($23.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.5, 5 folds, UTG+1 raises to $6, Hero calls $2.50.

Flop: ($12.35) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $7.25, Hero?

zyrrth · #2 10-12-2007, 11:15 AM

kk+ maybe qq+, ak is a stretch unless your image is very loose -aggro.

AlexB182 · #3 10-12-2007, 11:17 AM

Call me a nit but I drop it. This is KK or AA too often to be +EV IMO.

RapidEvolution · #4 10-12-2007, 11:30 AM

I was running about 15/12 at the table and had reraised him an orbit before with KK. I don't really see any light 4betting at I think chances are very good this is AA/KK. I was debating a call here and firing if he checked turn, but that could've been distastrous.

AlexB182 · #5 10-12-2007, 11:32 AM

If you call this flop bet you'll be really deep into this pot and its gotta be even tougher to let the hand go when turn bricks again.
When you're pretty sure he has AA or KK then release as early as possible which is flop here.

RapidEvolution · #6 10-12-2007, 11:44 AM

That was my thinking...I folded flop and villain said he had AQ. Not sure I believed him, but I think it's safe to put the default 4bet range at KK+?

PokerFun007 · #7 10-12-2007, 11:46 AM

I agree with dropping this, and you know to never believe people's chat about their hands.

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AlexB182 · #8 10-12-2007, 11:49 AM

If he is 4 betting you with AQ then you'll get his money sooner or later anyway. I wouldn't believe him though.
Maybe, just maybe he really played AK that aggressive but AA and KK are much more probable here.

RapidEvolution · #9 10-12-2007, 11:57 AM

Thanks pokerfun! Yeah, Alex I agree...I've been running into really aggro players today for some reason. *shrugs*

Landlord79 · #10 10-12-2007, 11:59 AM

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Call me a nit but I drop it. This is KK or AA too often to be +EV IMO.

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