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Old 09-22-2007, 09:15 PM
DerrtySlime DerrtySlime is offline
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Default $4.40 TJs in lp after 1st hour

table was generally tight. BB was very loose and aggressive. Comments on all streets welcomed.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t3972)
UTG (t2325)
UTG+1 (t4710)
MP1 (t2215)
MP2 (t6875)
MP3 (t7740)
Hero (t2555)
Button (t6905)
SB (t2640)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls t200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t600) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t400</font>, BB folds, Hero ??????
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Old 09-22-2007, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: $4.40 TJs in lp after 1st hour

I'd call the flop and see what happens. Most J's have you in bad shape right now and flop leads are usually TP. Beyond that, if he is betting a 9, you aren't going to get more value by raising (b/c he'll just fold).

Anyhow, I hate limping here PF in LP. Make it t800 PF and shove any flop (unless he donk shoves and you miss the flop). If a villain shove PF, you have an easy call.
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Old 09-22-2007, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: $4.40 TJs in lp after 1st hour

I don't think draws are in his range since only good players would bet out with a draw,althoguth there was a chance, it wa sprobably weighted lower than top pair. but i pushed anyway. villain showed 9 J

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t3972)
UTG (t2325)
UTG+1 (t4710)
MP1 (t2215)
MP2 (t6875)
MP3 (t7740)
Hero (t2555)
Button (t6905)
SB (t2640)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls t200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t600) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t400</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2355</font>, SB calls t1955.

Turn: (t5310) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t5310) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t5310
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Old 09-22-2007, 11:25 PM
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Default Re: $4.40 TJs in lp after 1st hour

That's what I meant by most J's are crushing your hand. You only beat J2-J5,J7,J8. So you are getting killed by J5,J9,QJ-AJ. So less than 1/2 of the J's are beating you, but how many of those that you beat 1) complete PF and 2) lead this flop. Not many. So his range on the flop is much more weighted towards J's that beat you.

So, call the flop and re-evaluate on the turn. I'd happily fold to a 1/2-3/4 pot turn bet if he fires again.

Sherman
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Old 09-23-2007, 03:02 AM
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Default Re: $4.40 TJs in lp after 1st hour

[ QUOTE ]
table was generally tight. BB was very loose and aggressive. Comments on all streets welcomed.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t3972)
UTG (t2325)
UTG+1 (t4710)
MP1 (t2215)
MP2 (t6875)
MP3 (t7740)
Hero (t2555)
Button (t6905)
SB (t2640)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls t200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t600) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t400</font>, BB folds, Hero ??????

[/ QUOTE ]

With your stack...i'd raise to 500, or fold preflop. As played, shove flop.
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Old 09-23-2007, 03:09 AM
nancyloum1 nancyloum1 is offline
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Default Re: $4.40 TJs in lp after 1st hour

I would definitely raise preflop to 600; then you'd have a better idea what you're up against if he calls. As played, call flop and see how it goes. Almost anyone calling your all in on the flop is going to have you beat here.
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Old 09-23-2007, 05:42 AM
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Default Re: $4.40 TJs in lp after 1st hour

I agree with Sherman, calling the flop is the best line to go.

If he is on a draw and no club appears he well slow down.
From Sherman's analysis I think we can discount AJ and maybe also KJ and QJ, which should have raised preflop OOP, still a SB lead out against 2 opponents is strong.

your situation is unclear, so keep the pot small.
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:25 AM
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Default Re: $4.40 TJs in lp after 1st hour

If you are folding to a turn lead, than you might as well muck the flop. Once you call he will put you ona draw and fire the turn like everytime the turn is not a club... If you are calling and are willing to bluff the club once it hits than call.
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