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Old 09-20-2007, 07:03 PM
Bond18 Bond18 is offline
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Default But i have top pair

Stars 50 single rebuy add on. Newish table, no real reads. I had planned to CR flop and if better called i jam the turn. Now WTF do i do?

Is pre flop even okay here?

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t100/t200
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t7240
UTG+1: t3350
MP1: t12440
MP2: t17530
CO: t12435
Button: t17416
Hero: t5660
BB: t6230

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises to t600</font>, CO calls t600 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t900)</font>, Button folds, Hero calls t500 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1500)</font>, BB folds.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t2000, 3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets t600</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t1800</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises all-in t16930</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero?
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: But i have top pair

Who is MP2?

I often call this because you are getting such good odds at this point and because people do ridiculous stuff with sets like min 3betting to "trap" CO.
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: But i have top pair

I think pf is marginal and I def. fold here... Is he doing this w/ KJ or QJ?
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: But i have top pair

Fold PF, Fold flop.

PF call is REALLY bad, for numerous reasons.
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: But i have top pair

Fold PF.

Your c/r should be bigger IMO, and you could probably even just cram. Once you get here I guess stick it in but I never get in this spot.
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: But i have top pair

preflop seems fine, but it also looks like a good spot to squeeze.

on flop, im only checkraising if im planning to call a shove. its pointless to c/r then fold. much better to just call if ur not sure what ur gunna do
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:16 PM
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How deep do you guys need to be to like pre better? You're def calling suited yea?
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:17 PM
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preflop seems fine, but it also looks like a good spot to squeeze.

on flop, im only checkraising if im planning to call a shove. its pointless to c/r then fold. much better to just call if ur not sure what ur gunna do

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Well i'm obv calling shove from the bettor, it's the 3 bet shove that seems worrying.
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:19 PM
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How deep do you guys need to be to like pre better? You're def calling suited yea?

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For me ---&gt; At least 50BB, and they must be suited if it's a multiway pot.
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: But i have top pair

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preflop seems fine, but it also looks like a good spot to squeeze.

on flop, im only checkraising if im planning to call a shove. its pointless to c/r then fold. much better to just call if ur not sure what ur gunna do

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Well i'm obv calling shove from the bettor, it's the 3 bet shove that seems worrying.

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oh misread nvm
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