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#1
09-21-2007, 05:57 AM
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turn and river play with SP
villain is 44/18/1.6/31/464
i felt the turn play is close but if i bet and he raises the decision wouldn't be any easier. call or fold river as played? Full Tilt Poker Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $10/$20 6 players Converter Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB folds. Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5SB, 2 players) SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls. Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3.5BB, 2 players) SB checks, Hero checks. River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3.5BB, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero ... 
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#3
09-21-2007, 06:30 AM
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Re: turn and river play with SP
i feel the turn decision when he raises your bet is incredibly easy as you will rarely be bluff raised and should only call when he has the least likely hand, Q3.
stove the river vs. A2-A8, Q7-QJ, KJ-KT, and some random crap.
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#4
09-21-2007, 06:31 AM
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Re: turn and river play with SP
Definitely call river.
Concerning the turn I would betfold here. He has to have you beat to raise you unless he is total maniac. But this should also be the last money you put into this pot in this hand unless you hit the river.
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#5
09-21-2007, 06:54 AM
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Re: turn and river play with SP
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i feel the turn decision when he raises your bet is incredibly easy as you will rarely be bluff raised and should only call when he has the least likely hand, Q3. stove the river vs. A2-A8, Q7-QJ, KJ-KT, and some random crap. [/ QUOTE ] unfortunately the answer depends on the amount of this random crap  against the above range our equity is tiny. if i subtract Q7 and add K8-K9 our equity is still only 9%. i'm having trouble estimating whether the random crap that he has and bets with warrants a call.
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#6
09-21-2007, 07:04 AM
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Re: turn and river play with SP
i'd just add 54s to the stove. my main point is that you should have bet the turn for a free showdown.
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#7
09-21-2007, 07:07 AM
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Re: turn and river play with SP
I like a B/F line on the turn. Like Miles said, you can safely fold to a c/r.
I call the river, expecting to be beat, and make a note.
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#8
09-21-2007, 07:08 AM
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Re: turn and river play with SP
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i'd just add 54s to the stove. my main point is that you should have bet the turn for a free showdown. [/ QUOTE ] 34s could be added as well... Agree that we should bet the turn.
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#9
09-21-2007, 07:11 AM
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Re: turn and river play with SP
my main gripe w/ adding 3x is that it's one of those hands where people have no idea whether they're bluffing or value betting. also he's loose but that is really loose from the sb.
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#10
09-21-2007, 07:19 AM
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Re: turn and river play with SP
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my main gripe w/ adding 3x is that it's one of those hands where people have no idea whether they're bluffing or value betting. also he's loose but that is really loose from the sb. [/ QUOTE ] Does it matter if we induce a bluff or a superthin valuebet? He can't expect us to call with J-high or 22 so he should consider it a bluff.
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