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Old 09-21-2007, 09:27 PM
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Default 2/4 minraise on river....worth it?

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BB ($511.40)
UTG ($403.20)
UTG+1 ($453)
MP1 ($384)
MP2 ($427)
MP3 ($459)
CO ($169)
Button ($541.55)
Hero ($697)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $12</font>, Hero calls $10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($28) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $32</font>, Button calls $32.

Turn: ($92) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $64</font>, Button calls $64.

River: ($220) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $77</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $154</font>, Hero ?
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Old 09-21-2007, 09:32 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 minraise on river....worth it?

meh, I just fold. Can't see him ever having worse than a J unless he's really good. The longer I look at this though the more I think a shove would be sick. Maybe I'm losing my mind, but he has exactly a J here a lot of the time and you can shove for $300 more and he might fold.
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:45 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 minraise on river....worth it?

Why bet the river?
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:01 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 minraise on river....worth it?

What kind of a crack head draws at a straight with a 3 flush on the flop? That's sick. I'm calling that min raise.
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:01 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 minraise on river....worth it?

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Why bet the river?

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value? Your sizing is terrible though imo. I didn't see that it was 1/3 pot. I think betting $120-140 or something looks a lot better, esp. if you want to fold to a minraise.
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Old 09-22-2007, 01:10 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 minraise on river....worth it?

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Why bet the river?

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value? Your sizing is terrible though imo. I didn't see that it was 1/3 pot. I think betting $120-140 or something looks a lot better, esp. if you want to fold to a minraise.

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do you not think you are missing value by betting so large?
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Old 09-22-2007, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 minraise on river....worth it?

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Why bet the river?

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value? Your sizing is terrible though imo. I didn't see that it was 1/3 pot. I think betting $120-140 or something looks a lot better, esp. if you want to fold to a minraise.

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do you not think you are missing value by betting so large?

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no, I think you still get looked up by all 2 pair hands and such and you probably aren't getting called by Jx anyways. What do you think about a bluff shove here though? Stacks work out really well for it.
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Old 09-22-2007, 07:57 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 minraise on river....worth it?

one, i dont like the flat call from a button raiser with tens, you're oop. but as played, i check river. yes, you may miss a bet here, but more often then not, he has a flush or a J. mini raise screams you're bet, but for $77 more i might call just to see what he had. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:59 PM
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Why aren't you 3betting PF?
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