$1 Turbo - This OK?

GlycineAlanine · #1 09-17-2007, 10:10 AM

OK, my friend gave me 5$ on Full Tilt and I'm trying to grind it up. I thought these turbos would be easy with 3 people going out in the first few hands but people actually seem to stick around.

This seemed like such an overbet and I thought he was stealing the blinds. Is it ok? or should I wait for better spots which as the blinds show are unlikely to come around soon.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t80/t160
7 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is BB with :5d :ah
5 folds, SB raises all-in t1180</font>, Hero calls t1020 (pot was t1340)</font>.

Flop: :tc :2s :ac (t2360, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t2360)

Turn: :3s (t2360, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t2360)

River: :9h (t2360, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t2360)

Results:
Final pot: t2360

vers · #2 09-17-2007, 10:21 AM

It'd be helpful to see the other stacks, but in a $1 turbo, even in something higher vs an active SB who is shoving ATC (which is probably what he should be doing vs your calling range), this is a clear call if you have less than 10x.

Displaying your stack size certainly helps. If you have like 2500 chips here I am probably just folding. If you're short, it's a call.

OT: The rake on FTP for microlimits is really horrible, I think there are better sites for microlimits (someone mentioned everest in another post).

Little John · #3 09-17-2007, 10:24 AM

i call here. your stack is pretty short. even if you are 50/50 vs his range, the big overlay makes this a call.

freeucm · #4 09-17-2007, 10:26 AM

i like the fold, im sick of baby aces crushing me when i call , let alone when im the pusher. You have about 7x bb wait please.

sence25 · #5 09-17-2007, 10:26 AM

if sb has some idea of sngs, this is the easiest call ever.

mortimo · #6 09-17-2007, 10:28 AM

Looks like standard-call, so yes
SB should push any 2 in this situation, but not all do this correct at this level.

The converter is a little tricky, but if you check the box "stack sizes (tourney hands)", the converter will take with stacks.

Shortcorner · #7 09-17-2007, 10:33 AM

Firstly, i'd suggest you read the sticky concerning ICM. ICM (Independent Chip Model) is really key to SNG play.

You need to understand what ranges the villan might be pushing with, to understand what ranges to call with. Most people use an ICM calculator like SngWiz or SNGEGT.

Based on these ranges, you will be able to establish your own pushing and calling ranges.

A5 is not a good hand to call with here. If the villan is pushing ,A2s+,K2s+,Q4s+,J7s+,T7s+,97s+,87s,A2o+,K7o+,Q8o+, J8o+,T8o+ . You are still an underdog 51% to 48%.

I really doubt he is pushing that wide.

GlycineAlanine · #8 09-17-2007, 10:47 AM

Sorry I didnt include stack sizes, there was one massive chip leader and everyone else was 1000-1500 with 2 on around 500. So everyone had very few chips yet were waiting for hands. The structure is crap as it's a turbo and everyone was so passive.

sence25 · #9 09-17-2007, 10:49 AM

Read the ICM sticky, and you're soon gonna love this structure+passive opponents [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

freeucm · #10 09-17-2007, 10:50 AM

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Firstly, i'd suggest you read the sticky concerning ICM. ICM (Independent Chip Model) is really key to SNG play.

You need to understand what ranges the villan might be pushing with, to understand what ranges to call with. Most people use an ICM calculator like SngWiz or SNGEGT.

Based on these ranges, you will be able to establish your own pushing and calling ranges.

A5 is not a good hand to call with here. If the villan is pushing ,A2s+,K2s+,Q4s+,J7s+,T7s+,97s+,87s,A2o+,K7o+,Q8o+, J8o+,T8o+ . You are still an underdog 51% to 48%.

I really doubt he is pushing that wide.

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Even 4-5x bb it would leave u in pits.