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Old 09-16-2007, 10:06 AM
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Default 88 against some weakness

apart from a possible reraise preflop by me (sometimes i do, sometimes i dont, what do you think of my river bet? I had the idea someone with a J couldnt call here after 2 reasonable bets. Am i wrong?


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $185.00
BB: $220.35
UTG: $231.55
MP: $91.95
CO: $199.00
BTN: $652.80

Preflop: Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $7.00</font>, BTN calls $7.00, Hero calls $6.00, BB folds

Flop: ($23) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($23) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $18.00</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $18.00

River: ($59) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $50.00</font>
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Old 09-16-2007, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: 88 against some weakness

Looks kinda spewy. Of course he "can" call. Brick turn, brick river, and suddenly you wake up? You are representing 77 exactly, and I have to think he's gonna discount that hand if he's a thinking player, and if he's not a thinking player, what are you doing bluffing him?
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Old 09-16-2007, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: 88 against some weakness

i think your river bet sux. check folding this on the flop, turn, or river would have been fine. if he's passive enough to check the flop, what makes you think he wouldn't have checked the turn and river?

i think if he had a jack he played it well, not poorly. there's no doubt i'd call on the end with AJ if i were villain.
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Old 09-16-2007, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: 88 against some weakness

This looks good. All draws missed on the river, I think $37 accomplishes the same thing though so no need to bet so much. I wouldn't mind a shove tbh, no joke.
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Old 09-16-2007, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: 88 against some weakness

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This looks good. All draws missed on the river,

[/ QUOTE ] eh this is precisely what makes this closer to awful than ok for a few reasons.
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Old 09-16-2007, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: 88 against some weakness

Given button's check on the flop, I think you have the best hand more often than not. The question is...does he have anything he can call you with? Compared to...if you check river will he bet worse hands that you can snap off?
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Old 09-16-2007, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: 88 against some weakness

at first i thought this was spew, but pfr folded and otb calls turn w/ a wideish range, so i think it's ok

you obv get looked up by all Kings.... but yeah, maybe you fold out a few Jacks and pocket pairs better than yours

your bet's a little too big, make it look like you want to get called.... since it's cheaper and accomplishes the same thing

not sure what i think about a shove

i don't think i'd read all that much into buttons check on the flop, vs 2 players
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Old 09-16-2007, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: 88 against some weakness

King? What the heck?

What hands beat Hero that check behind the flop?
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Old 09-16-2007, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: 88 against some weakness

I would usually c/f my pp's on the turn and lead if I picked up a draw. They play much better than 88 here and round out your range nicely with semi-bluffs/made hands.

I think a whiffed flush draw would usually bet river here where a jack would get to showdown, and it's unlikely he has a K. As played I'd c/c the river.
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Old 09-16-2007, 07:54 PM
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King? What the heck?

What hands beat Hero that check behind the flop?

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KJ of course. It's not unreasonable for Villain to check other Kings for various reasons. Various Jacks or QQ. We have no reads/stats on Villain, these would help obviously.
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