NL50: Str8 flush draw with insane heat on the flop

[Specialwon]

What do you do with this flop, I ask you? Probably I butchered the hand, but I figured I was probably the favourite to win because of the stupid raising.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $48.39
UTG+1: $81.30
Hero: $54.62
MP2: $9.50
MP3: $25.87
CO: $50
Button: $63.78
SB: $39.05
BB: $9.50

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $1.8</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($12.6, 8 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $1.51</font>, Hero calls, 2 folds, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $3.02</font>, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $4.53</font>, Hero calls, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $9.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB calls all-in $4.68</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $48.29</font>

[effang]

It's a paired board.

It's a paired board w/ QJ.

PEOPLE LOVE LIMPING QJ.

you have 2 outs, ONLY. I'm sure KQ is there somewhere.

[r2me]

don't forget the 2 to a flush on the board....all the more reason to lay this hand down given your cards...esp when not drawing to the nut flush.

[toymach776]

ewww. two queens on board. abort. good chance you have 2 outs. If board was not paired then I think shove is ok.

[swainy]

i think you probably have two outs.....


whats with the betting and raising in this hand?!?!?!?!

[Specialwon]

Ok, I should perhaps have said my exact thinking on the hand.

UTG+1 was a clear donk at something like 33/25. I had a pretty good read that he had a piece of the flop but not a lock. In the event my read turned out to be just right.

It is however true to say that any of the other players could have had QQ, JJ or QJ.

Does this make any difference? My pokerstove of this hand made me about 30% to win, I felt with the BI that was already on the table I had enough odds to push and that UTG +1 would pad the pot for me, which he in fact did.

Am I still a donk?

[kurto]

yes. it is donkish.

getting all your money in when you can have as few as 2 outs is bad.

I also don't like this hand from Middle position because you're too often going to be playing draws from out of position.

[FireStorm]

QQJ in a multiway pot with this action, someone could easily be full, or have KQ which kills your straight on one end. Add in the possibility of higher diamonds being out, and you can get away from this one at SOME point.