Simple peel or no

HOWMANY · #1 09-25-2007, 01:01 AM

Villain is WhoKnewIKnew. Never played with him as far as I remember but I see him in this game pretty often so I assume he's not retarded. He has 3bet me with A4s on the button when I opened CO so I assume he's a bit laggy. Does he have A high/small pair here often enough to peel?

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (5 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises

Leader · #2 09-25-2007, 01:05 AM

I think his range here could be pretty weak TBH. What K's does he CC here? Not many I'd think. That leaves a lot of PP's and air.

danzasmack · #3 09-25-2007, 01:09 AM

pretty close spot IMO. who is bb? does he expect him to CC? I cant see him not 3-balling any decent K's pf vs. you tbh, and if we're putting A5 in his 3-bet range i don't think a peel is that bad.

i may get a little aggro on a club turn that isn't a 5/6/7 because Thi beats 6hi though i don't do that very often.

who are you in this game? pm if you'd like.

HOWMANY · #4 09-25-2007, 01:10 AM

Yeah, giving his willingness to 3bet me with A4s earlier I was somewhat skeptical that he could have any hands with a K here.

Dave Mac · #5 09-25-2007, 01:29 AM

i think it is an easy peel b/c against this player i think you are live a decent amount of the time but also i don't want to let him push me off and hand too easyly, so i would be more apt to call the flop help diswade him from making this a habit.
dave

HOWMANY · #6 09-25-2007, 01:38 AM

Yeah not having him regularly c/r me on random raggedy flops because I just b/f a lot is also good.

JDalla · #7 09-25-2007, 03:09 AM

does he really CC pocket pairs? seems like a fishy play. Which leaves 34s, 45s, 56s, 67s, and... K4s? And misclicks.

gehrig · #8 09-25-2007, 04:19 AM

x% u flop a pair which is worth x bets
y% u flop a flush draw which is worth y bets
1-x%-y% u lose a small bet

not a tough problem

spend 30 minutes figuring it out instead of the rest of your career wondering

thepizzlefosho · #9 09-25-2007, 04:22 AM

should we put AA or KK in his range since CC in the SB is a play from WITHEG? I know this isn't very important to the OP but I was just wondering if people have actually seen this implemented in any games.

but yeah I think you can peel here if he occasionally gives out a free card. If he always fires a second barrel on the turn I think you can prolly muck.

gehrig · #10 09-25-2007, 04:25 AM

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Yeah not having him regularly c/r me on random raggedy flops because I just b/f a lot is also good.

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if u think he has nothing too often as hes making the pot big the correct counter strategy is not to peel and then fold a lot