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Old 09-12-2007, 03:49 AM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default time to fold AK preflop?

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SB ($1108.90)
BB ($93)
UTG ($618.30)
MP ($1298.15)
Hero ($660.55)
Button ($217.95)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $24</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $72</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $240</font>, hero?

villain has 378 left. he is 12/10 in 80 hands. note bb is short.
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:51 AM
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Default Re: time to fold AK preflop?

wait what, hasn't BB folded?
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:53 AM
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Default Re: time to fold AK preflop?

pretty standard fold.
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:54 AM
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Default Re: time to fold AK preflop?

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wait what, hasn't BB folded?

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I think he just means, that utg would have to take into account that hero reraised a hand that would be committed to a BB push so perhaps he's not messing around as much w/ suited connectors etc. I don't think most people are thinking this deeply though, or that it should be much of a concern for utg.

I would fold.. UTG just has AA/KK here so much, an utg raiser just doesn't 4-bet light without history, especialyl since he may be on the tighter side after an 80 hand sample. you're basically praying to be up against QQ or a chop.
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Old 09-12-2007, 04:08 AM
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Default Re: time to fold AK preflop?

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wait what, hasn't BB folded?

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I think he just means, that utg would have to take into account that hero reraised a hand that would be committed to a BB push so perhaps he's not messing around as much w/ suited connectors etc.

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yes, also i think that utg is (even) less likely to have 67s or 55 or something.
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Old 09-12-2007, 04:17 AM
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Default Re: time to fold AK preflop?

ooic, anyway yeah, i'd prob fold here. due to stats, QQ probably doesn't always 4b here, and therefore tilts the push from ~0ev to slightly -EV.
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Old 09-12-2007, 04:22 AM
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fold looks good
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