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09-12-2007, 01:55 PM
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misplayed Q high flush draw?
villain is 25/10 w/ only 20 hands
Full Tilt Poker Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $5/$10 5 players Converter Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls. Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4.5SB, 2 players) BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls. Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3.25BB, 2 players) BB checks, Hero checks. River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3.25BB, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls. Results: Final pot: 5.25BB i should bet the turn and check river UI right? even though he's likely to have a pair. as played, fold river? 
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#2
09-12-2007, 03:03 PM
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Re: misplayed Q high flush draw?
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i should bet the turn and check river UI right? [/ QUOTE ] That line looses value when you dont have SD value. On the other hand you have a really good draw with 15 cards to improve to what is most likely the best hand so you really dont need a fold very often to make a bet good. The thing is, its hard to see which hand a tight player folds. Altho its very few hands its never good for you when any player peels that flop. He either has a hand or a draw with which he is going to see the river with. Dunno IMO its close between betting and checking. If he calls I would be inclined to bet the river again to fold out QJ, Q8, AJ, AQ and possibly 9x.
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#3
09-12-2007, 03:09 PM
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Re: misplayed Q high flush draw?
I might bet the turn if you had a more reliable read. But you don't so checking is standard.
The river is interesting. I guess I call because he's unknown basically so he's retarded sometimes + busted str8/fd
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#5
09-12-2007, 03:12 PM
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Re: misplayed Q high flush draw?
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[ QUOTE ] If he calls I would be inclined to bet the river again to fold out QJ [/ QUOTE ] V dont folz the ntz [/ QUOTE ] Sure? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] missed it
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#6
09-12-2007, 03:53 PM
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Re: misplayed Q high flush draw?
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[ QUOTE ] i should bet the turn and check river UI right? [/ QUOTE ] That line looses value when you dont have SD value. On the other hand you have a really good draw with 15 cards to improve to what is most likely the best hand so you really dont need a fold very often to make a bet good. [/ QUOTE ] so it's not one of those very weak showdownable hands (that can only win the SD against busted draws) stox talks about on p. 203 of WITHG?
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#8
09-12-2007, 04:14 PM
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Re: misplayed Q high flush draw?
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Which busted draw would that be? [/ QUOTE ] true, there are not too many and i don't know which ones of them he'll defend with: J7o, J3s, J4s, J5s, J7s, Q2s-Q5s, 4c3c but he might also fold some better hands to a turn bet.
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