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Old 09-11-2007, 10:46 PM
EN09 EN09 is offline
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Default 10NL AKs rivers 2 pr on 4 flush against LPP

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $8.95
BB: $11.70
UTG: $10.25
UTG+1: $3.80
MP1: $2.50
MP2: $4.95
MP3: $9.75
Hero (CO): $8.95
BTN: $12.35

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain plays every hand limping or calling up to 6xBB preflop raises and is 85/2/.15 w/over 65 hands. Some hands he'll minimum raise. Saw one hand where he bet OOP on river with MPTK ATs on busted flush board.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9 Players)
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.10, MP3 calls $0.10, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.60</font>, 3 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, MP3 calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.95) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
MP2 checks, <font color="red">MP3 bets $0.10</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.40</font>, MP2 calls $0.40, MP3 folds

Turn: ($2.85) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP2 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.50</font>, MP2 calls $1.50

River: ($5.85) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP2 bets all-in for $2.45</font>, Hero???

How often would you figure to be good here, or insta-fold?

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Old 09-12-2007, 07:47 AM
Jay.Yang Jay.Yang is offline
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Default Re: 10NL AKs rivers 2 pr on 4 flush against LPP

I don't raise the Flop, with two people in the pot and one is the donk, it's unlikely that you'll take down the pot right away. I would also bet more on the Turn (PSB) and just put in the rest on the River.

As played, getting 3:1 I fold.
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Old 09-12-2007, 08:14 AM
Vecernicek Vecernicek is offline
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Default Re: 10NL AKs rivers 2 pr on 4 flush against LPP

I probably wouldn't c-bet whiffed pots against calling stations.

Villain's river bet looks fishy, but it's be a pretty marginal call at best.
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Old 09-12-2007, 08:36 AM
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Default Re: 10NL AKs rivers 2 pr on 4 flush against LPP

I would call on this flop, if you want to raise it because you think both villains have absolute air raise a decent amount (but they are stations and you have nothing so I would call). Yes we certainly don't fold because we have major odds to draw to an A or K. On the turn as played I don't think you have to bet really more because that almost puts him allin, we just want to find out if we are good or let him pay to draw to his diamond. River is a fold...
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Old 09-12-2007, 08:52 AM
Mike Kelley Mike Kelley is offline
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Default Re: 10NL AKs rivers 2 pr on 4 flush against LPP

What's with the tiny reraise on the flop? You got owned. If you are going to reraise there it needs to be between 50%-100% pot size. He still had odds to draw at anything after you reraised him. He made a 5% bet into a $2 pot and after your tiny reraise the real villain had great odds to draw at anything.

villains pot odds on the flop 2.55/.40 - 6.375/1


villains odds to draw to a flush on the turn 38/9 - 4.22 to 1


You just spew money with a bet that small into that size pot. You don't get any information about villains hand and you don't give them bad odds to call.
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Old 09-12-2007, 09:05 AM
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Default Re: 10NL AKs rivers 2 pr on 4 flush against LPP

You get money from people like that by betting your strong hands, not by raising with air.
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Old 09-12-2007, 09:08 AM
Mike Kelley Mike Kelley is offline
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Default Re: 10NL AKs rivers 2 pr on 4 flush against LPP

I wasn't saying op should raise with air in this spot. If OP was closing the action I might consider RR strong with air. I think it's a call in this spot.

River is a fold.
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Old 09-12-2007, 09:15 AM
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Default Re: 10NL AKs rivers 2 pr on 4 flush against LPP

Sorry Mike, it was meant as a response to OP's play, not to your response.
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Old 09-12-2007, 09:32 AM
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Default Re: 10NL AKs rivers 2 pr on 4 flush against LPP


No foul.
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