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Old 09-11-2007, 12:26 PM
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Default KT 3 streets cross posted

villan is passive post and very loose pre. i've seen him limp alot. he gets mildly aggro when he does have a hand.

saw this one: i open in CO, sb (villan) calls, BB squeezes with AA, i fold, sb (villan) calls. flop comes 89xr, sb(villan) c/c-es, turn comes T, sb(villan) c/r-es small with QJo and stacks the AA.

so yeah, fairly passive i would say. hero shouldnt have any history just playing a tag game.

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $202.20
UTG+1: $427.65
CO: $83.15
orange: $399
SB: $245.30
BB: $412.94

Pre-flop: (6 players) orange is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">orange raises to $6</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($13, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">orange bets $10</font>, BB calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($33, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">orange bets $25</font>, BB calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($83, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">orange bets $55</font>

thoughts? i'll go street by street after.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:32 PM
Peter Harris Peter Harris is offline
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Default Re: KT 3 streets cross posted

i like it given villain, you're probably being looked up by weaker pocket pairs and all weaker Ts, 7s and 5s you're not being raised by hands you lose to, so the value is all there baby.

What's the fuss?
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: KT 3 streets cross posted

looks ok i think. Villain probably looks you up with 44, 88, 99, Tx, 7x, 5x...and it'll be an easy laydown if he raises.

Alot of times I become a wuss bag and check behind here because I never know what donks are calling 2 streets with...i'm not sure how big of a leak this may or may not be
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: KT 3 streets cross posted

Passive...but does he call down with weak hands?

89 got there, diamonds got there. I probably bet the turn. But I'd check behind on the river.


Also is there a reason for the raise to 6 pre-flop?
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: KT 3 streets cross posted

Lego,
I raised to $6 pf in position. I like raising smaller in position, helps with pot control, makes it easier to steal with hands like 78o without risking as much, etc.

And yeah, its an easy b/f all around.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: KT 3 streets cross posted

I can see the logic, "he didnt raise when all the draws hit so he doesnt have any of them" but IMO the pool of hands which a)you beat and b) are going to call this river bet are so small that for me this is an easy check behind. Note that I think you have much bigger stones than me...
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:00 PM
Eric Draven Eric Draven is offline
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Default Re: KT 3 streets cross posted

He's a passive player, so the flop is fine... but will he showdown with a worse hand than you have is the question? Is it a situation where only better hands will call?

B/F seems okay to me though.
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:01 PM
AZplaya AZplaya is offline
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Default Re: KT 3 streets cross posted

if were expecting to get called by any pair, and maybe even A high, I like it. I think your behind a pretty good chunk of the time here though.
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:29 PM
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Default Re: KT 3 streets cross posted

I posted this hand because I think that value betting is definitely an area in which many players (myself included) need to improve on. Oftentimes our opponents are very loose and generally passive, so we should take advantage of this.
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: KT 3 streets cross posted

[ QUOTE ]
I posted this hand because I think that value betting is definitely an area in which many players (myself included) need to improve on. Oftentimes our opponents are very loose and generally passive, so we should take advantage of this.

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ok so in this hand you have made the bet. what was your range for villain at the time?
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