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Old 09-10-2007, 03:07 PM
Colombo Colombo is offline
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Default TPMK = the nuts?

Villain is 2p2r Bouge_Todd. He's very good and aggro, and we've done battle plenty of times. We both know we're both capable of getting it in light.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

BB ($517)
UTG ($617)
MP ($565.10)
Hero ($809.50)
SB ($164.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $16</font>, Hero calls $16, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($38) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $26</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $64</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $182</font>, Hero calls $118.

Turn: ($402) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $367.1 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $367.10.

River: ($1136.20) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $1136.20


Ok, I know everyone is gonna say "just call the flop there's no value in raising blah blah." However, BT will probably think the same, and seeing as how I very rarely will have AK here, I think he'd have to narrow my range down to 99/33/air. So hopefully you can see where I'm going with this.... Thoughts?
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: TPMK = the nuts?

meeeeeeeeee
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: TPMK = the nuts?

your logic is ok and i guess this is fine every once in a while...but yeah "just call flop"
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: TPMK = the nuts?

Why in the world do you think he would shove the turn with worse after you called the flop, if you think after your flop raise he puts you squarely on 99/33/air?
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: TPMK = the nuts?

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Why in the world do you think he would shove the turn with worse after you called the flop, if you think after your flop raise he puts you squarely on 99/33/air?

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OP thinks that villain will bluff off his stack because air is more likely than 99/33.
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:31 PM
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your logic is ok and i guess this is fine every once in a while...but yeah "just call flop"

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agreed.
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: TPMK = the nuts?

why would vilain 3bet flop if your range was 99/33/air

then, ytf would he shove turn

none of your thinking makes any sense here
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:41 PM
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wtf does he expect you to call flop 3bet and fold turn shove with if hes bluffing...........you are gettin taken to value town here
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: TPMK = the nuts?

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why would vilain 3bet flop if your range was 99/33/air

then, ytf would he shove turn

none of your thinking makes any sense here

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what about my air hands that he loses to? mid pp's, A9, etc. I know these aren't technically air but they're weak enough that I'd be bluffing anyway. This might make him want to 3bet JT/QT or his A high hands.
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:42 PM
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Default Re: TPMK = the nuts?

Its funny how there are so many horrendous comments on 2p2 posts. Even people agreeing with these shocking comments.

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your logic is ok and i guess this is fine every once in a while...but yeah "just call flop"

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agreed.

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Can we get a forum with only the 8 good posters in MSNL instead?

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why would vilain 3bet flop if your range was 99/33/air

then, ytf would he shove turn

none of your thinking makes any sense here

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