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Old 09-10-2007, 12:55 PM
Pocketbear Pocketbear is offline
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Default ($24) QQ in SB with CO\'s limp. Shove or raise?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t50/t100
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t3220
UTG+1: t860
MP1: t2660
MP2: t1270
CO: t1625
Button: t1745
Hero: t1295
BB: t825

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
4 folds, CO calls t100 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t150)</font>, Button folds, Hero?

The villain has been pretty quiet and hasn't done anything out of the line. What is the best way to get more value: shove or raise to something like t400?
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Old 09-10-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: ($24) QQ in SB with CO\'s limp. Shove or raise?

I think a push is the safest move. It's a little risky, but at times I'll raise to 450. The problem is that I then push any non-A flop, but then you're obviously in a bad spot if an A comes.
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Old 09-10-2007, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: ($24) QQ in SB with CO\'s limp. Shove or raise?

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The problem is that I then push any non-A flop, but then you're obviously in a bad spot if an A comes.

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Not necessarily - I think there is a good chance he would openraise lots of Ax from CO...
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Old 09-10-2007, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: ($24) QQ in SB with CO\'s limp. Shove or raise?

Too deep to shove. 400 sounds good.
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: ($24) QQ in SB with CO\'s limp. Shove or raise?

If I`m up against a reg, I would push because they will read this for what it is..I like a raise to t350 against an unknown, but I don`t do this every time because other regs will take notes
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: ($24) QQ in SB with CO\'s limp. Shove or raise?

I like 400 here as well. 88-TT (and maybe JJ) are shoves for me though.
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: ($24) QQ in SB with CO\'s limp. Shove or raise?

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The problem is that I then push any non-A flop, but then you're obviously in a bad spot if an A comes.

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Not necessarily - I think there is a good chance he would openraise lots of Ax from CO...

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Good point, so are we pushing any flop?
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