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Old 09-07-2007, 10:40 PM
SABR42 SABR42 is offline
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Default 200 NL, top pair in a limped pot against moron.

Villain is 80/20 (lol!). That 20% pfr is deceptive though, because he only minraises.

Postflop he is a total calling station, with the occasional minraise (lol!). Also, if you check to him, he will bluff, but his bets don't get larger on later streets (he's the type to fire $20 on flop, turn, and river).

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $200.00
Hero (BB): $262.50
UTG: $254.85
UTG+1: $301.85
MP1: $203.00
MP2: $453.10
MP3: $206.20
CO: $194.50
BTN: $294.55

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9 Players)
3 folds, MP2 calls $2.00, 4 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($5) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP2 bets $10.00</font>

Hero plans to call this, and check/call all 3 streets if necesary.

Thoughts?
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Old 09-07-2007, 10:41 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL, top pair in a limped pot against moron.

Agreed
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Old 09-07-2007, 10:50 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL, top pair in a limped pot against moron.

yeah sounds good.

I might c/r river if the board is kind.
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Old 09-08-2007, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL, top pair in a limped pot against moron.

seems reasonable
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Old 09-08-2007, 02:00 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL, top pair in a limped pot against moron.

i play it the same unless an ace fall. however, i would not stack off. if he bets too much he prolly hit a set.
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Old 09-08-2007, 10:38 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL, top pair in a limped pot against moron.

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Old 09-08-2007, 12:57 PM
Albert Moulton Albert Moulton is offline
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Default Re: 200 NL, top pair in a limped pot against moron.

Even a moron can flop trip 5s.

Since you think he might bluff if checked to on the flop, then c/c one street is good, but then you should c/f to another bet on the turn. If he bets on the turn, that means that he isn't worried about you having a Kx hand because he either has a good Kx hand or he has a 5.

If the turn goes c/c, then a small bet on the river planning to fold to a raise would be good so that he'll call with one-pair and Kx hands, but only raise with better ones.

c/c 3 streets seems like spew. No need to give chips to a moron who could easily have KQ,KJ, and any other 5x hand. His worse hands probably check behind on the turn if you check.
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Old 09-08-2007, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL, top pair in a limped pot against moron.

Does his bet size indicate hand strength? If he microbluffs, but makes reasonable bets with real hands, then it seems like this hand is supereasy to play.
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Old 09-08-2007, 01:11 PM
Albert Moulton Albert Moulton is offline
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Default Re: 200 NL, top pair in a limped pot against moron.

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Even a moron can flop trip 5s.

Since you think he might bluff if checked to on the flop, then c/c one street is good, but then you should c/f to another bet on the turn. If he bets on the turn, that means that he isn't worried about you having a Kx hand because he either has a good Kx hand or he has a 5.

If the turn goes c/c, then a small bet on the river planning to fold to a raise would be good so that he'll call with one-pair and Kx hands, but only raise with better ones.

c/c 3 streets seems like spew. No need to give chips to a moron who could easily have KQ,KJ, and any other 5x hand. His worse hands probably check behind on the turn if you check.

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For reference, see NLHETAP Concept No. 6, p. 248. The only differences between OP and the example is you have a T kicker instead of a 3, and you think villain is a moron.

Edit: I suppose villain's history of small betting post flop and his over-sized flop bet are different than the example. That might indicate a c/f on the flop as being a good line. Or the overbet might be a tell of weakness, as well.

But I don't think those differences change the basic principles involved here. So, c/c the flop. c/f the turn.
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Old 09-08-2007, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL, top pair in a limped pot against moron.

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Does his bet size indicate hand strength? If he microbluffs, but makes reasonable bets with real hands, then it seems like this hand is supereasy to play.

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I think one street is not necessarily enough information given OP's read. It could easily be a big stab with worse than Kx if he fires once, then checks behind on the turn. After all, if he was bluffing or firing with a weak Kx, then he'd be worried about OP having a 5. So, I don't think c/f the flop is terrible, but c/c the flop with a plan to c/c the turn and then c/c the river would be.
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