3-bet pot- NFD - deep 5/10

[Borned_Luckbox1]

I have been 3-betting alot. 25/21/4

He is pretty bad. But no fish. 30/13/3

5-handed

stacks: $2000


UTG raises $40, co folds, button calls, sb folds,, I raise to $175 with AK[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], both call.

~$500) Flop 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I bet $340(good?), UTG raises to $800, button folds.

I think he is bad enough to raise Q's and sometimes jacks on this board. Should I push?

[Teh1337zor]

yeah i shove

[Hattifnatt]

I think this is a set or maybe AA/KK the very majority of the time. Dont think you can fold though (maybe you can?) and pushing seems better than calling.

[Teh1337zor]

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I think this is a set or maybe AA/KK the very majority of the time. Dont think you can fold though (maybe you can?) and pushing seems better than calling.

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I think AA/KK are a small part of his range

[Teh1337zor]

bc he 4bets due to depth and to isolate

[mythrilfox]

you think he'd 4b them pre or something? what do you think his range is here, jj/qq/set/2p?

frankly i think we have 0 fold equity on a shove, but we're getting 3.6-1 on a call and probably have fine implied odds... i'd call here.

[Borned_Luckbox1]

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I think this is a set or maybe AA/KK the very majority of the time. Dont think you can fold though (maybe you can?) and pushing seems better than calling.

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Im pretty sure he is bad enough to raise J's and Q's on this flop. Maybe even toppair.

[iceman5]

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I think this is a set or maybe AA/KK the very majority of the time. Dont think you can fold though (maybe you can?) and pushing seems better than calling.

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Im pretty sure he is bad enough to raise J's and Q's on this flop. Maybe even toppair.

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LOL. Raising this flop with QQ or JJ is just horrible vs a guy who has been 3 betting alot, right? You could have anything. If he has QQ / JJ, he has the best hand ALOT of the time....like now.

[Irish Mafia]

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I think this is a set or maybe AA/KK the very majority of the time. Dont think you can fold though (maybe you can?) and pushing seems better than calling.

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Im pretty sure he is bad enough to raise J's and Q's on this flop. Maybe even toppair.

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LOL. Raising this flop with QQ or JJ is just horrible vs a guy who has been 3 betting alot, right? You could have anything. If he has QQ / JJ, he has the best hand ALOT of the time....like now.

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Actually QQ/JJ is NOT the best hand. It may be a "made" hand - but its a small dog.

Since this guy is a 30/13, and you've been 3-betting a lot, he probably has the widest range ever. However, considering that he raised w/ the BTN still to act behind him actually signals that he's somewhat strong (at least in his eyes). The main issue is, does he consider JJ and A-10 to be "strong" hands - or does he need a set/2pair? Its really hard to assess w/o a better read - but i'd imagine his view of "strength" is wide and WEAK enough to warrant shoving here.

[iceman5]

QQ/ JJ is then best hand right now. I didnt say it was the favorite if they get all in.

The point is that OP went out of his way to say that raising QQ / JJ is really bad here and I seriously disagree.