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Old 09-08-2007, 09:17 AM
ProfessorBen ProfessorBen is offline
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Default 20/40 K7 flop spot

HJ is known pro, standard tag. Button is some old lady. No good reads on her, bought in for 500.

6 handed
Preflop HJ raises, Button cold calls, sb folds, Hero calls in bb with K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Flop 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero checks, HJ bets, Button raises, Hero 3 bets, HJ calls, button calls

Turn Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hero bets, HJ calls, Button calls

River K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero bets
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:55 AM
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Default Re: 20/40 K7 flop spot

River bet is good. Cant really think of either of them having a better hand. Not sure what HJ plays like this but I dont think its a better hand.

Flop seems fine. After HJ coldcalls the flop the turn scares me, but Im not sure what else to do.
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Old 09-08-2007, 10:15 AM
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Default Re: 20/40 K7 flop spot

Ben,

I like how you played this hand. I'm not really sure what to do on the the turn other than b/f. What do you do if HJ raises the river? What's your plan on a blank rivers?
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Old 09-08-2007, 10:42 AM
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Default Re: 20/40 K7 flop spot

I like donking the flop and calling down if HJ raises more than c/r'ing in this situation. Rest of hand is standard
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: 20/40 K7 flop spot

I guess you're in AC now (from your previous posts), and I play these games a decent amount. I think after the flop play you're behind a lot here. I think you should just check/fold the turn. The pro has a pair bigger than your 7's I think, and he thinks you're a spazzy punk kid, and he's gonna call you down.

Then again, once you bet the turn, the river bet is good, as a bluff, becuase it puts his 88, 99, TT in an awkward, awkward spot.

In general I don't think this works enough in AC to be right. I think its closer to a spew, than a +EV line.
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:49 AM
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Default Re: 20/40 K7 flop spot

sorry, didn't realized you spiked two-pair on river. now its clearly a value bet, because they're calling with lots here. also, you seem comfortable bet/folding, so its easy line for you here.
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Old 09-08-2007, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: 20/40 K7 flop spot

The river bet seems like a no brainer to me.

Your turn bet is the more interesting decision, and I am not crazy about it.
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Old 09-08-2007, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: 20/40 K7 flop spot

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The river bet seems like a no brainer to me.

Your turn bet is the more interesting decision, and I am not crazy about it.

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I liked the turn bet. It puts pressure on several hands that have us beat.
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Old 09-08-2007, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: 20/40 K7 flop spot

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The river bet seems like a no brainer to me.

Your turn bet is the more interesting decision, and I am not crazy about it.

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I liked the turn bet. It puts pressure on several hands that have us beat.

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No hand that beats us is folding on the turn.
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: 20/40 K7 flop spot

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The river bet seems like a no brainer to me.

Your turn bet is the more interesting decision, and I am not crazy about it.

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I liked the turn bet. It puts pressure on several hands that have us beat.

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No hand that beats us is folding on the turn.

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Would this be an easy call on the turn if you were the HJ and had a pair like 88,99,TT,JJ? I suppose if you had a read that the BB was aggressive it would be, but if your read was the BB was straightforward it might be a little more difficult. I am curious what you guys would do if you were the HJ with these hands.

I usually donk this flop but I don't mind the check-raise here. The HJ will bet here 100% given this board and after you check-raise, I think it is more likely he will let go of his overcards since he might be drawing close to dead(from his point of view). I would bet out if the board were 742 rainbow.
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