Folding Bottom Set?

PLAYOFFS · #1 09-06-2007, 03:39 AM

Can you ever fold bottom set in a heads up situation? I have been losing lately with bottom set and losing to set over set (on the flop). What would be a criteria for folding? If the board was AKQ and it was a 3bet preflop? Or a 3suited flop?

grouchie · #2 09-06-2007, 03:45 AM

how high are you playing?

Right now my mantra is pretty much never fold a set.

Now if the board is 4 flush and i'm not holding one and facing a huge bet, maybe....

Set over set is rare and designed to felt you.

go with it.

CalledDownLight · #3 09-06-2007, 03:57 AM

I'd say yes if it was 9bet preflop and you were 10000 BB deep.

bottomset · #4 09-06-2007, 04:11 AM

in PLO sure

in NLHE takes extremely rare circumstances

Das Budrick · #5 09-06-2007, 04:58 AM

your sample size is too small.

CalledDownLight · #6 09-06-2007, 05:42 AM

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in PLO sure

in NLHE takes extremely rare circumstances

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how deep would you have to be to fold bottom set hu? It would take a sick dry board and like 400+ BB for me to let it go.

AlexB182 · #7 09-06-2007, 05:50 AM

We had quite a similar discussion yesterday. I made a pretty theoretical expample about when to let go a set.
For me, it has to be like bet/raise/reraise PF and then A or K has to hit the board and I have to have like a set of Js. That's one of the very rare moments when I would think about letting it go...

CalledDownLight · #8 09-06-2007, 06:00 AM

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We had quite a similar discussion yesterday. I made a pretty theoretical expample about when to let go a set.
For me, it has to be like bet/raise/reraise PF and then A or K has to hit the board and I have to have like a set of Js. That's one of the very rare moments when I would think about letting it go...

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this is talking hu though according to op. I just can't see folding a set hu without some sick read + really deep stacks.

FireStorm · #9 09-06-2007, 09:45 AM

Deep stacks and a coordinated board, with a very solid read. Otherwise, no, don't fold sets.

PokerFun007 · #10 09-06-2007, 10:19 AM

Yeah, in my experience set over set is just a variance issue, not one to change the way sets are played, unless as everyone else has said, very deep stacks, very solid read, and very coordinated board.