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Old 09-02-2007, 08:03 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default AA in 3bet pot, paired flop

Poker Stars
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$2/$4 Blinds
5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $485.80
BB: $406.00
UTG: $392.40
Hero (CO): $406.30
BTN: $46.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16.00</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $14.00, <font color="red">BB raises to $68.00</font>, Hero calls $52.00, SB folds

Flop: ($152) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $52.00</font>, hero?

i have 332 left. bb is 20/18 in 250 hands, no other reads/history. SB is 20/8 in 200 hands. comments on preflop are good too.
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Old 09-02-2007, 08:05 PM
Melchiades Melchiades is offline
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Default Re: AA in 3bet pot, paired flop

I'm probably calling my way to busto here.
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Old 09-02-2007, 08:05 PM
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Default Re: AA in 3bet pot, paired flop

i usually call the flop, would be interested to hear what others think.
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Old 09-02-2007, 08:06 PM
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Default Re: AA in 3bet pot, paired flop

3 bet preflop. As played just call here.
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Old 09-02-2007, 08:06 PM
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Default Re: AA in 3bet pot, paired flop

preflop is fine. that flop bet is really wierd, I just call
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Old 09-02-2007, 08:07 PM
Rampage_Jackson Rampage_Jackson is offline
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Default Re: AA in 3bet pot, paired flop

I just call flop. That is an rather small bet given the pot size. I've seen players do it before as a way of double barrel bluffing. Basically they think if you just called the flop you may not be that strong.
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Old 09-02-2007, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: AA in 3bet pot, paired flop

I pop it again pf, maybe even mini-raise, just something so SB is clearly incorrect to continue.

I call flop for sure. Check turn if checked too. and probably call river. Basically you want to extract max from JJ/QQ and lose the least to AK. So get ready to call.
If he bets 100 on turn, and get rest in on river, I may fold.
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Old 09-02-2007, 08:24 PM
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$68 pre, $52 flop, and $100 turn, and you'd fold the river? Granted if he fires three times he's gotta be strong, and it matters a lot if the turn/river are a Q/J, but we'd be folding after getting $220 of a $406 stack in the middle.
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Old 09-02-2007, 08:29 PM
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Default Re: AA in 3bet pot, paired flop

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I'm probably calling my way to busto here.

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no other way to play it unless maybe the turn checks through and he instashoves river. but thatll never happen.
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Old 09-02-2007, 08:31 PM
Rampage_Jackson Rampage_Jackson is offline
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Default Re: AA in 3bet pot, paired flop

schwza, I've seen you post a few number of hands where you have slow played KK/AA pre and then gotten in a sticky situation on the flop due to a bad flop coming out.

One thing you could try is 4 betting a little bit looser and include KK/AA in that range. So if you get QQ+/AK pre (assuming 100bb) be looking to play it allin. I'm not saying you need to do this or anything, granted me knowing that you could be playing KK or AA slow pre makes it harder for you to play against. I'm just saying if you keep running into a wall with these hands it could be a decent idea to try it out and see how it works.
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