NL100 bottom set on drawy board

Panic__NL · #1 09-04-2007, 09:46 AM

Villian is unknown, first hand at the table.
Anything wrong with getting our money in here on the flop, I am not sure what villian will call us with when I 4bet.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $79.90
CO: $98
Button: $106.65
SB: $79.40
Hero: $100

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 folds, SB raises to $2, Hero calls $1 (pot was $2.5).

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($4, 2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $7, SB raises to $26, Hero raises to $71.5,

TianYuan · #2 09-04-2007, 10:21 AM

Standard, he minraised PF, he can have 2 pair, some flushdraw, QQ+, Straight+flushdraw+ pair etcetcetcetcetcetc

Wolfram · #3 09-04-2007, 10:24 AM

Standard. He's not folding TPTK, 2-pair or combo draws, so just try to get it in there. Flat-calling his 3bet shows even more strength than just pushing all in. I'd hate to flat-call and then get a scare-card on the turn that might prevent villain from getting stacked.

sixhigh · #4 09-04-2007, 10:25 AM

Reraise preflop all day. And get it in on this flop.

slickss · #5 09-04-2007, 10:26 AM

Yeah, hate preflop.

Wolfram · #6 09-04-2007, 10:30 AM

Preflop is fine imo. They're are certainly some advantages to 3-betting, but we're read-less and villains stack size makes post-flop awkward after we 3-bet.

AMT · #7 09-04-2007, 11:22 AM

yeah, remember its not ONLY about what we're beating now that will pay us off (which there are plenty of hands that will); its also that even against most of the hands that beat us we have a good chunk of equity against, making it worth a call regardless. either way, felt it.

HoldEmNewby · #8 09-04-2007, 01:09 PM

preflop call is not standard but w/e

Flop: your first raise is terrible. there is $5 in the pot and villain has 79.40 behind and the flop is very drawy, bump minimum to $10, i'd lean to $12. After that getting all the chips in with a set against a 3/4 stack in a blind blind battle is oh so standard.