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Old 08-31-2007, 11:57 PM
phobos phobos is offline
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Default A7 flops TPTK on montone board, fire turn?

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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $621.45
BB: $833.15
UTG: $440.50
Hero (MP): $392.00
CO: $80.00
BTN: $523.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16.00</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $16.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($38) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $24.00</font>, BTN calls $24.00

Turn: ($86) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
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Old 08-31-2007, 11:58 PM
Teh1337zor Teh1337zor is offline
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Default Re: A7 flops TPTK on montone board, fire turn?

I would probably c/f but that may be too weak
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Old 08-31-2007, 11:59 PM
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Default Re: A7 flops TPTK on montone board, fire turn?

how about check/call flop. that board sux for you in reralitry. if you fire turn, you screw yourself forriver.
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Old 09-01-2007, 03:32 AM
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Default Re: A7 flops TPTK on montone board, fire turn?

bet/fold 55

reevaluate river if called
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Old 09-01-2007, 03:44 AM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: A7 flops TPTK on montone board, fire turn?

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how about check/call flop

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I really hate c/c the flop here. We have no idea where the hell we are, and like 3/4 of the deck is bad cards. We get outplayed way too much with that line, and I think that a stop and go induces a lot of bluffs.

A lot of people don't slowplay to the river, don't bluffraise very often, chase too much, don't value bet very thinly, and bluff predictably (one way or the other). When a few of these things are true (either because they suck, or because of metagame), betting can definitely work out well.

When too many of those things are untrue, you start getting into trouble, and the pot is going to be pretty big on the river, and you're OOP.

I just c/f this sometimes too, but against unknowns when the pot's not too big yet, I usually prefer more aggressive lines. I much prefer smallish bet sizing when you can get away with it, too.
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Old 09-01-2007, 03:50 AM
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Default Re: A7 flops TPTK on montone board, fire turn?

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bet/fold 55

reevaluate river if called

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Old 09-01-2007, 05:43 AM
MyPTBB100isPOOP MyPTBB100isPOOP is offline
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Default Re: A7 flops TPTK on montone board, fire turn?

I think if we are checking the turn, it should be with the intent of giving up on the hand, we will be to exploitable oop vs good opponents. With no prior history, I see this as a good spot for a second barrel, nothing indicates to him that you are out of line, so I would take this oppertunity to capitalize on your pf and flop aggression.
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Old 09-01-2007, 05:55 AM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: A7 flops TPTK on montone board, fire turn?

If I knew he was tricky, cf the flop is kind of sexy. Since hes an unknown, I dig 40 folding to a raise, something goofy to ward him off 'outplaying' us.
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