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Old 08-30-2007, 12:03 AM
Keyser112 Keyser112 is offline
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Default NL 25 was re raising a mistake given my position?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($14.65)
Hero ($13.95)
MP1 ($29.25)
MP2 ($26.10)
MP3 ($35.75)
CO ($27.40)
Button ($24.65)
SB ($10.10)
BB ($14.55)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, MP3 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.60) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.75</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $10.85</font>, MP3 folds, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $8.10
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:13 AM
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Default Re: NL 25 was re raising a mistake given my position?

Since it's a 6 way pot it's very unlikely you either have the best hand or end up with the best hand so it's best to fold the flop. Raising is terrible but live and learn.
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: NL 25 was re raising a mistake given my position?

and a lot of learning i am doing.
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:45 AM
ship_it_trebek ship_it_trebek is offline
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Default Re: NL 25 was re raising a mistake given my position?

Fold this preflop
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:49 AM
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Default Re: NL 25 was re raising a mistake given my position?

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Fold this preflop

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Really? I'm not too into folding suited connectors preflop.

The only reason to fold it might be because he's in EP and building a pot - giving others odds to call.

Otherwise, I don't think it's that bad.

Postflop play is bad - no reason to raise with so many others left to act.
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:49 AM
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Default Re: NL 25 was re raising a mistake given my position?

I don't fold this preflop either.

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The only reason to fold it might be because he's in EP and building a pot - giving others odds to call.

[/ QUOTE ] This isn't true because we aren't really playing a RIO hand. If alot of people see the flop the only time you give lots of action is if you flop a good draw or made hand.
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: NL 25 was re raising a mistake given my position?

If you overlimp QJs up front, it's not because you're looking to flop top pair with nothing else. That said, I don't think raising is horrible, depending on how the other players play. It's certainly better than calling, which is totally awful here. Seeing that many limpers after you limped is pretty much ideal, but the flop is very meh.
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:10 AM
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Default Re: NL 25 was re raising a mistake given my position?

Wow...

Lots of nitty responses here.

Let me give you mine - I thought you played this hand just fine, if your read on EP was anything other than a super-nit. EP bet coulda been a FD protecting, Qx, small set, etc., etc.,......

Betting here about the size of the pot really wasn't a bad play at all - and let me tell you why....

To fold this playable hand pre-flop is silly nitty and the implied odds paid off - giving you a nice pot with little risk - regardless of the texture of the flop.

So considering we are in the hand..... you hit TPNK, so dumping to the weak EP bet is certainly an option here, but should be read-dependent.

If you feel you have any chance of being ahead here, or even better, have a range on EP and think you can outplay that range by asserting a better range with a large bet to his blank on the turn........then betting is the right move.

Floating is dangerous and just a bad play in this spot, for obvious reasons.....

So your choice to bet was not at all bad.

Didn't work out this time, but postflop aggression to define yours or your opponent's hand is what separates good players from ABC stags.

Well played.
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:17 AM
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Default Re: NL 25 was re raising a mistake given my position?

Believe it or not there are times to not be aggressive in poker and it's not because people are nitty.
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:49 AM
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Default Re: NL 25 was re raising a mistake given my position?

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Fold this preflop

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i was in BB? lol
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