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Old 08-30-2007, 06:27 PM
youngmachetes youngmachetes is offline
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Default NL25 AK- awkward turn spot

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $27.75
Hero (BB): $26.60
UTG: $15.80
BTN: $51.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $1.25</font>, Hero calls $1.00, UTG folds

Flop: ($2.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $2.00</font>, Hero calls $2.00

Turn: ($6.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $5.00</font>


i didn't 3b pf as this villain only calls with better. what's my turn line?
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Old 08-30-2007, 06:34 PM
CmnDwnWrkn CmnDwnWrkn is offline
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Default Re: NL25 AK- awkward turn spot

Raise turn, call a shove. Turn raise is for value - you will get called by a lot of weaker holdings
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Old 08-30-2007, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: NL25 AK- awkward turn spot

You post no reads yet he only calls with better???


RR pf if not, raise flop shove turn, as played with flop call, either call turn and call a river bet on a horrible river, raise 2c etc for value; all the information we have is that they open raised an utg limper?? AKs is well ahead of this range.
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Old 08-30-2007, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: NL25 AK- awkward turn spot

I think having not raised PF, which I am not a huge fan of with unmade hands, (yea yea to everyone who says RR)You have to raise this flop, as played I would make it $15 to go on the turn &amp; Call a Push
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Old 08-30-2007, 06:52 PM
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Default Re: NL25 AK- awkward turn spot

to lsaw2, [censored] you and your condescending [censored]. he will only call 3bets w/ QQ/KK/AA and will 4bet me some of the time. therefore, i like the coldcall. raising the flop only makes him fold worse and call with better i think. i don't really know, but thats how i felt at the time. i ended up shoving turn because stack size were kindof awkward for raise/call.
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Old 08-30-2007, 06:54 PM
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Default Re: NL25 AK- awkward turn spot

Reraise pre-flop. If he will only call 3bets with QQ/KK/AA then reraise him every time he raises.


As played raise flop. Edit: I'd say just call flop if it were less drawy.

As played raise turn.
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:00 PM
youngmachetes youngmachetes is offline
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Default Re: NL25 AK- awkward turn spot

okay, i agree w/ rr pf. my logic was backwards. honestly though, what worse hands am i getting action from when i raise the flop?
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:02 PM
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Default Re: NL25 AK- awkward turn spot

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okay, i agree w/ rr pf. my logic was backwards. honestly though, what worse hands am i getting action from when i raise the flop?

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JT/AJ//AT maybe/diamonds...it's just so drawy.


You definitely need to raise the turn the way you played it. Just sucks if he had JT. (Also QQ,KK,AA sucks too.)
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:05 PM
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Default Re: NL25 AK- awkward turn spot

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to lsaw2, [censored] you and your condescending [censored]. he will only call 3bets w/ QQ/KK/AA and will 4bet me some of the time. therefore, i like the coldcall. raising the flop only makes him fold worse and call with better i think. i don't really know, but thats how i felt at the time. i ended up shoving turn because stack size were kindof awkward for raise/call.

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pre-flop i have seen people call 3bet with any pocket pair, some high aces AQ, AK, hell even J9s (donks). so you are mistaken by that assumption.
flop: I can see a lot of hands (both drawing and/or made hands) that you beat calling your flop raise. you have to charge against the gazillion draws, and weaker aces...
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: NL25 AK- awkward turn spot

i posted already that i shoved turn becuase stack sizes were awkward for raise/call. also i think a shove look bluffier. he called with 99. i think i played the hand well other than pf, as villain was kinda nitty and would prob. fold AJ/AT, and all flush draws other than ones that i'm behind.
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