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Old 08-30-2007, 05:35 AM
Kimpan Kimpan is offline
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Default giving up with AQ vs 2 opp.

Note: Probably standard this but should I be betting somewhere here or would that be spew?


PartyPoker $100 NL Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> HandRecorder v0.9b

Stacks &amp; Stats
SB ($30.53)
BB ($123.84)
UTG ($117.05)
MP ($63.98) (47/9/0.65/57) (218h)
CO ($119.15) (16/7/12.21/26) (383h)
Hero ($99.50)

Preflop: Hero is BU with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#FF0000">MP raises to $2</font>, CO calls $2, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $9.50</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $7.50, CO calls $7.50.

Flop: ($30) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($30) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

River: ($30) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $30.
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Old 08-30-2007, 05:52 AM
Toretto Toretto is offline
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Default Re: giving up with AQ vs 2 opp.

hm i think i played it the same and lose to 33 :/
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:01 AM
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Default Re: giving up with AQ vs 2 opp.

I bet out on the flop for around 20$. You 3-bettet preflop, and got position. use that. MP is really bad, if we trust the stats, and is likely to fold. CO is very agressive, so may cr here. If he does, i would push over. If he calls, then i fire a 2nd barrel on a blank turn. chances are that he was making the 3-bet call due to the 5/10 rule (7.5$ to pay and 22.5$ already in the pot + 90 $ effective stacks). I set him on a PP here most of the times.
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:21 AM
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Default Re: giving up with AQ vs 2 opp.

In a 3-bet multiway pot, i think a c-bet is spew, especially on this board. Your line is fine IMO.
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:22 AM
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Default Re: giving up with AQ vs 2 opp.

bet 20 on flop. If they C/C theyr weak. And you got 10 outs. So def bet flop here.
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:28 AM
Daddy Warbucks Daddy Warbucks is offline
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Default Re: giving up with AQ vs 2 opp.

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bet 20 on flop. If they C/C theyr weak. And you got 10 outs. So def bet flop here.

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I'd bet heavily against OP having 10 clean outs. Also

1) It's a 3 bet pot
2) MP doesn't have a full stack
3) With his stats he's probably not folding any pair.
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:29 AM
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Default Re: giving up with AQ vs 2 opp.

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bet 20 on flop. If they C/C theyr weak. And you got 10 outs. So def bet flop here.

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We def don't have 10 clean outs vs a C/C. And if we get C/Red we're [censored]. We don't have to win every pot we 3-bet especially when the board comes down like this and we have a weak draw to the nuts that can't stand a raise. This board hits MP's range pretty well and he's not very likely to fold. The only thing we can hope for here is to have lots of outs versus two small pairs that are unlikely to bluff us out of the pot anyway.
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:32 AM
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Default Re: giving up with AQ vs 2 opp.

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I bet out on the flop for around 20$. You 3-bettet preflop, and got position. use that. MP is really bad, if we trust the stats, and is likely to fold. CO is very agressive, so may cr here. If he does, i would push over. If he calls, then i fire a 2nd barrel on a blank turn. chances are that he was making the 3-bet call due to the 5/10 rule (7.5$ to pay and 22.5$ already in the pot + 90 $ effective stacks). I set him on a PP here most of the times.

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If a 17/12 calls a 3bet based on odds he's pretty unlikely to go nuts on a board like this without hitting a set.
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:32 AM
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Default Re: giving up with AQ vs 2 opp.

I understand the importance of aggression but why are people advocating pushing if we Cbet and get raised here? We have A high. I like the line at 100NL, maybe cont bet but I think it's v marginal v 2 players.
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:34 AM
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Default Re: giving up with AQ vs 2 opp.

imho, i'm rarely continuation betting into a reraised 3 way pot on this type of flop. If the flop comes:
2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] then maybe
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