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09-04-2007, 10:29 PM
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Stars 10 10 min...River bluff line...is this pretty standard?
Stars 10 10 min..about 400 left...I've been all over (down to 105 at one point) and scraped back up to a medium stack...been playing pretty aggressive pre but not too many post flop moves...villan is new to table so no real reads.
on the flop I called the small bet with 2nd pair cause he was last to act and I wanted to see what he did on turn.. after turn I was thinking he had a weak Q or a 9...river makes the flush and I figured my line looked like a FD and that he wasn't strong enough to make the call... Is the line okay? I don't make many moves but this seemed like a ripe spot. Poker Stars No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t100/t200 9 players UTG: t2730 UTG+1: t4085 MP1: t6705 MP2: t3845 MP3: t9350 CO: t4415 Button: t3940 SB: t3060 Hero: t3335 Pre-flop: 9 players Hero is BB with 4C 9H UTG calls t200 UTG+1 folds MP1 calls t200 4 folds SB calls t100 Hero checks Flop: (t800) 9S 3H QH (4 players) SB checks Hero checks UTG checks MP1 bets t400 SB folds Hero calls t400 UTG folds Turn: (t1600) 5C (2 players) Hero checks MP1 bets t400 Hero calls t400 River: (t2400) 5H (2 players) Hero is all-in t2335 
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#2
09-04-2007, 11:00 PM
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Re: Stars 10 10 min...River bluff line...is this pretty standard?
i'm not sure this is a good line so early in the tournament.
i don't like turning our hand into a bluff, since i feel its good a lot of the time against 66-88 or something like that. i might just check/fold the flop and wait for a real hand though and leave my tricky stuff til we're at 200/400 or higher. you're line isn't horrible, but i think there are too many things against you here. you're OOP, against a readless villain, and the tourney is still young. you've got a decent stack to work with and a marginal hand that could win a decent amount of time at showdown without putting your tourney on the line. but don't listen to me, i've been playing so weak-tight lately. seriously weak-tight. unless someone agrees with my thinking, my poker advice is a bit rusty as of late.
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#3
09-04-2007, 11:41 PM
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Re: Stars 10 10 min...River bluff line...is this pretty standard?
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Stars 10 10 min ..about 400 left...I've been all over (down to 105 at one point) and scraped back up to a medium stack...been playing pretty aggressive pre but not too many post flop moves...villan is new to table so no real reads. on the flop I called the small bet with 2nd pair cause he was last to act and I wanted to see what he did on turn.. after turn I was thinking he had a weak Q or a 9...river makes the flush and I figured my line looked like a FD and that he wasn't strong enough to make the call... Is the line okay? I don't make many moves but this seemed like a ripe spot. Poker Stars No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t100/t200 9 players UTG: t2730 UTG+1: t4085 MP1: t6705 MP2: t3845 MP3: t9350 CO: t4415 Button: t3940 SB: t3060 Hero: t3335 Pre-flop: 9 players Hero is BB with 4C 9H UTG calls t200 UTG+1 folds MP1 calls t200 4 folds SB calls t100 Hero checks Flop: (t800) 9S 3H QH (4 players) SB checks Hero checks UTG checks MP1 bets t400 SB folds Hero calls t400 UTG folds Turn: (t1600) 5C (2 players) Hero checks MP1 bets t400 Hero calls t400 River: (t2400) 5H (2 players) Hero is all-in t2335 [/ QUOTE ] Bold type above should indicate that most bluffs are going to be very EV-. When i reviewed the HH, MP1's line is also consistent with a FD (after his 1/4 pot bet on the turn.) If he put u on a FD, and he's got a Q, he's not going to bet so sm on the turn. His weird line makes his range too wide here to profitably run a bluff IMO. The key to winning these types of tournies is to value-bet like crazy, as opposed to trying to "outplay" weak opponents thru these type of bluffs.
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