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Old 08-26-2007, 11:44 PM
KingGordy KingGordy is offline
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Default Street by Street: NFD with very deep stacks multiway

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $1,784
CO: $497.45
Button: $1,549
SB: $659.25
Hero: $1,716

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $20</font>, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($80, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero?????

UTG
-LAG
-running about 40/33 preflop
-makes a move at pretty much every pot he plays
-seems to be a thinking player but is just way overactive and doesn't know when to tone it down
-I've been running good and getting the better of him this session but that hasn't seemed to deter him.

Button
-25/17
-seems like a mediocre TAG, haven't seen him play a big pot yet.
-has made some pretty bad postflop plays, ie bad payoffs, valueless bets, but they were both in small pots.

SB
-TAG, overly loose OOP.

I thought this was a very interesting flop spot, as I can see merits in pretty much all of my options. Please note the stack depth when you comment.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:28 AM
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Default Re: Street by Street: NFD with very deep stacks multiway

bet every time.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:31 AM
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Default Re: Street by Street: NFD with very deep stacks multiway

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bet every time.

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How come?
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: Street by Street: NFD with very deep stacks multiway

to win the pot
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: Street by Street: NFD with very deep stacks multiway

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to win the pot

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4 ways on this board you think my fold equity is that big? Also if I had a super strong hand why wouldn't I c/r the overaggro preflop raiser given my relative position?
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: Street by Street: NFD with very deep stacks multiway

check/calling turns your hand face up. you dont want to do that.
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Old 08-27-2007, 05:28 AM
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Default Re: Street by Street: NFD with very deep stacks multiway

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check every time.

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Totally agree.
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Old 08-27-2007, 05:35 AM
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Default Re: Street by Street: NFD with very deep stacks multiway

Unless you have a history of donking into PFR with these villains I think checking is right. You are too deep to b3b this flop. If UTG cbets and everybody else goes away you can c/r him.
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Old 08-27-2007, 05:43 AM
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Default Re: Street by Street: NFD with very deep stacks multiway

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check every time.

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Totally agree.

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Old 08-27-2007, 06:31 AM
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Default Re: Street by Street: NFD with very deep stacks multiway

i like a lead but not for the reasons that if you check call your hand is face up which i disagree with, but not totally.

a lead looks very strong you could have a set and be charging any flush draws, plus you build a pot with a nice draw and you can stun some marginal but better hands into just calling because you look so strong. if utg raises you could put in a three bet or just call depending on what the people behind do. being so deep you might be able to out muscle him with the bet/three bet cause he prob doesn't want to go broke with an overpairish hand considering how strong that line would be.

a c/r is good cause you get to see what happens from the ppl behind utg but they know he's aggressive and might be willing to put in a raise if he cbets which would price you out whereas if you lead they may be more inclined to just call with a hand like kq or aq. i'm leaning towards a lead.
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