27s, ATs on the button, just 10bb left, SNGPT says fold?

[billybeartku]

SNGPT says it's a fold...is it?

PokerStars Game #11684998693: Tournament #59290612, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2007/08/25 - 14:12:49 (ET)
Table '59290612 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: POKERPUNK44 (300 in chips)
Seat 2: dan96 (2455 in chips)
Seat 3: southp1668 (3040 in chips)
Seat 7: Neek555 (2400 in chips)
Seat 8: El Zerro (3295 in chips)
Seat 9: hero (2010 in chips)
POKERPUNK44: posts the ante 25
dan96: posts the ante 25
southp1668: posts the ante 25
Neek555: posts the ante 25
El Zerro: posts the ante 25
hero: posts the ante 25
POKERPUNK44: posts small blind 100
dan96: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [As Ts]
southp1668: folds
Neek555: folds
El Zerro: folds
hero: raises 1785 to 1985 and is all-in
POKERPUNK44: folds
dan96: calls 1785
*** FLOP *** [7d 4c 8s]
*** TURN *** [7d 4c 8s] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [7d 4c 8s 8d] [8c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
dan96: shows [Ad Js] (three of a kind, Eights)
hero: shows [As Ts] (three of a kind, Eights - lower kicker)
dan96 collected 4220 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4220 | Rake 0
Board [7d 4c 8s 8d 8c]
Seat 1: POKERPUNK44 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: dan96 (big blind) showed [Ad Js] and won (4220) with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 3: southp1668 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Neek555 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: El Zerro folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: hero (button) showed [As Ts] and lost with three of a kind, Eights

[DeuceSeven]

Vs every kind of calling range this is a HUGE +EV push when I ran this through sngpt.

[PokahPokah]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t300)
BB (t2455)
UTG (t3040)
MP (t2400)
CO (t3295)
Hero (t2010)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1985</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t1785.

Flop: (t3895) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t3895) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t3895) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t3895

i converted it cos it was hurting my eyes XD lol

[PokahPokah]

p.s looks like a push to me

[FF_Woodycooks]

Looks fine to me altho I generally dont like pushing 10+ BB, I usually raise to 2.5x BB esp in position. His call with AJo is horrible.

[Dr_Wonderful]

Why is that a horrible call? He's calling with a nice hand against an opponent that is on the button with less than 10 BBs. I call this all day long. I agree with both the push and the call. Maybe that's why I'm doing so badly lately, calling too wide against steal attempts with hands like AJo, ATs and KQs.

[Pocketbear]

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Looks fine to me altho I generally dont like pushing 10+ BB, I usually raise to 2.5x BB esp in position.

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He has like 10.05 BB, a raise to 2.5x would be really horrible here. Easy push.

[FF_Woodycooks]

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Why is that a horrible call? He's calling with a nice hand against an opponent that is on the button with less than 10 BBs. I call this all day long. I agree with both the push and the call. Maybe that's why I'm doing so badly lately, calling too wide against steal attempts with hands like AJo, ATs and KQs.

[/ QUOTE ]

I tell people that the single biggest mistake I used to make in SNG's was pushing too wide, and calling pushes too thin.
The gap concept is really much wider than I ever thought. Unless this is the most aggressive of pushbots I don't even think of calling this, there is more equity to be gained using your chips to push than there is racing off with AJ offsuit for nearly all your chips.

[Pudge714]

I don't see how sngpt can say this is a fold. This looks unexplioitable to me.

[DeuceSeven]

If OP is pushing 15% or higher then calling with AJ is marginally -ev. If op is pushing 10% it's a horrible call. If OP is pushing 20% or wider its an easy call. Depends on what villain thought OP's range was.