200NL - TPTK in 3bet pot deep

[SpecT]

<font color="blue"> Ok so villain is a 21/18/4 reg. We're at a table with 2 superfish so kinda staying out of each others way. This went down like 4 hands earlier:
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Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $663.84
BB: $211.70
Hero (UTG): $636.70
MP: $209.10
CO: $659.76
BTN: $192.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, MP folds, CO calls $7.00, BTN folds, SB calls $6.00, BB folds

Flop: ($23) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $17.00</font>, CO calls $17.00, <font color="red">SB raises to $65.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $225.00</font>, CO folds, SB calls $160.00

Turn: ($490) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($490) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $404.70</font>, SB folds


<font color="blue"> He said he had a flush, nice fold sir. So yeh, now thoughts on this hand.</font>


Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $206.70
Hero (BB): $881.70
UTG: $210.40
MP: $714.31
CO: $161.54
BTN: $424.84

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $7.00</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $23.00</font>, BTN calls $16.00

Flop: ($47) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $29.00</font>, BTN calls $29.00

Turn: ($105) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $66.00</font>, Hero calls $66.00

River: ($237) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $115.00</font>, Hero folds

[amoeba]

you should have checkraised him all in after his turn bet if you are willing to call it, IMO.

I mean are you really folding river on a blank? or do you really expect him to bluff for less than half pot on river if he misses?

[dshadow35]

I think you should have bet the turn, you lose the lead there. Instead of calling 66 u should have bet it.

[Imrahil]

I'm not happy about crai on the turn w/ AK on this board 200bb deep. I probably play it the same.

[SpecT]

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you should have checkraised him all in after his turn bet if you are willing to call it, IMO.

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is this a bluff? i dont really understand it.

also... stack sizes.

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I mean are you really folding river on a blank? or do you really expect him to bluff for less than half pot on river if he misses?

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1) yes im c/f blank river
2) no, i dont expect him to bluff at all on the river (see reads)

edit - also i think he checks behind alot with draws on the turn coz he doesn't want to get c/r off his hand

[winningfish]

Bet bigger on flop, and bet the turn, fold to any reraise. Kinda strange for you to play TPTK so weak up to the turn if you ask me.. then putting in much more money as the draw turned to his favor.

[amoeba]

sorry didn't look at stack sizes. for some reason I thought button's $115 bet on the river was all in.

yeah since its 200bbs deep, I would have played it the same way, maybe only difference being leading turn instead of checking.

[gimmetheloot]

this is 100% fine.

[Rekwob]

..

[sinderg]

could do with some pot control.
ok so why did you lead the flop, he called you raise in position pre-flop so did you think one bet would take this down? this hand in this situation has awesome for bluff catchin, you wanna get to show down not try and pick it up on the flop. in the end the turn is always comming since your bet pre-flop pretty much gtd at continuation bet so his call should be expected too. In this situation of draw heavy board and being out of position deep i would like to see a blank turn and pick up 100-200$ pot. check flop and call his bet. then lead 2/3rd of the pot on the turn if he raises fold, if he calls which is what you want, then check call the river (re-evaluating the call on the bet size), since the way you have played this now he could possibly think your weak and try to bluff .