Stackadonk? [200NL]

[BombayBadboy]

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $42.95
BB: $208.90
Hero (UTG): $215.35
MP: $282.60
CO: $271.00
BTN: $218.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, MP calls $7.00, 4 folds

Flop: ($17) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, MP calls $12.00

Turn: ($41) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $24.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $85.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises all-in to $263.60</font>, Hero calls all-in for $111.35
Uncalled bet of $67.25 returned to MP

River: ($433.70) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $433.70 ($3 Rake)

Villain is virtually unknown. Has been at the table for 20 hand, played 26% of his holdings.

[Bukem_]

just lead turn.

[Shizzle12345]

I dont like it, Why would you check raise the turn? Thats like representing a 5 or boat or something. I think ur beat most of the time when he shoves.

You can do this if its a total retard, but vs unkown i dont like it.

[BombayBadboy]

Yeah I must admit I hated life whne he shoved. I think his range for betting the turn is normally alot weaker then AJ. I figure most of the time when we get to the turn like this, he has a draw or a weaker J. Maybe a float. By checkraising I give him the chance to f up big time and call me. Vs. an unknown I think my play is bad since we don't know if he raises sets/ two pair on the flop.

Would you like it if villain is a 20/15/2 TAG?

[Heine]

Fine if you have a read that says: "drooler: over plays tptk"

[Djeorge]

I really don't like this mainly because of stack sizes, the turn card, and absence of reads. Your stacks are too deep to get stacks in on turn so you're putting your opponent to a shove or fold decision.

Given that your line represents such strength, that any 5 just improved to beat you and is now crushing you and that an unknown at 200NL prob isnt putting 140bbs into he pot w/&lt;TPTK that much of the time, you're not going to be getting the best of it when all the money goes in but you have to call the shove because of odds.

I'd much rather lead turn for 30ish and then either bet 60, c/c or c/f the river depending on the river and turn/riv timing tells/bet size.

[Shizzle12345]

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I really don't like this mainly because of stack sizes, the turn card, and absence of reads. Your stacks are too deep to get stacks in on turn so you're putting your opponent to a shove or fold decision.

Given that your line represents such strength, that any 5 just improved to beat you and is now crushing you and that an unknown at 200NL prob isnt putting 140bbs into he pot w/&lt;TPTK that much of the time, you're not going to be getting the best of it when all the money goes in but you have to call the shove because of odds.

I'd much rather lead turn for 30ish and then either bet 60, c/c or c/f the river depending on the river and turn/riv timing tells/bet size.

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theyr not deepstack? theyr just 100BB deep. I agree with the rest tho

[crunchi]

I think we should bet turn for value/protection.

I have no clue whether we should b/f or b/c though?

I'm leaning towards b/f but i come from a FR background so i could be way off. Will draws bluff raise a paired turn here?