NL50 QQ vs big threebet PF

AlexB182 · #1 08-21-2007, 08:44 AM

Villain is quite loose and aggressive, 38/16 over only 75 hands, so not much value there. He has made some strange decisions after the flop, like calling an AI with TPTK (top pair was an 8 though). BUT: I haven't seen him threebetting PF a single time so far.

I guess the question is: do we shove here? If I call I guess its pretty clear he's def moving in on the flop. Calling for set value is of course no question here. Frankly, I don't like moving AI or commiting my whole stack PF with QQ, even against a player like him.
All comments welcome...

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($54.40)
BB ($18.65)
UTG ($59.75)
UTG+1 ($56.30)
MP1 ($35)
MP2 ($51.90)
MP3 ($21.15)
CO ($63.75)
Button ($50.45)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 checks, MP2 raises to $2.25, 3 folds, Hero raises to $5.75, 1 fold, MP1 folds, MP2 raises to $23.25, Hero ?

diebitter · #2 08-21-2007, 08:49 AM

What do you think he makes of you/the whole table? Has he been a successful bully?

If you've been folding too much to his aggression, he's playing you, in which case you should just move in.

AlexB182 · #3 08-21-2007, 08:57 AM

No, he was not the kind of bully type just splashed around in many pots. In fact, he has backed off most of the time when we were in hands together, guess I've took away the pot from him on the flop about 3 or 4 times. I understand your point, but it would've been very strange if he had the feeling he could push me around.

Peleus · #4 08-21-2007, 09:19 AM

I fold.

This may as well be an all in by him preflop, as he has priced himself into any shove by you, and he won't be able to correctly get away from it on the flop.

His allin range would probably be QQ+ and mabye JJ, AK (generally speaking).

That gives you a 50% 50% equity.

At worst his range is KK+ which gives you 20% chance at winning.

Mingdu · #5 08-21-2007, 09:30 AM

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guess I've took away the pot from him on the flop about 3 or 4 times.

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You pissed him off

He's not folding but my range for this guy might include pp down to 88 ...

I get it in ... flop a Q when he shows AA ...

BigBiceps · #6 08-21-2007, 01:05 PM

Easy fold.