1/2 KK faces c/r & push

BT2 · #1 08-21-2007, 06:53 AM

villain is 21/12/3.2 after only 112 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

UTG ($382.85)
UTG+1 ($387.50)
MP1 ($179.50)
Hero ($222.85)
MP3 ($88.70)
CO ($176.35)
Button ($140.75)
SB ($206.75)
BB ($147)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $10, 2 folds, Button calls $10, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $8.

Flop: ($33) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $20, Button folds, UTG+1 raises to $50, Hero calls $30.

Turn: ($133) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $327.5 (All-In), Hero ?

Galwegian · #2 08-21-2007, 07:03 AM

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villain is 21/12/3.2 after only 112 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

UTG ($382.85)
UTG+1 ($387.50)
MP1 ($179.50)
Hero ($222.85)
MP3 ($88.70)
CO ($176.35)
Button ($140.75)
SB ($206.75)
BB ($147)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $10, 2 folds, Button calls $10, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $8.

Flop: ($33) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $20, Button folds, UTG+1 raises to $50, Hero calls $30.

Turn: ($133) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $327.5 (All-In), Hero ?

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You are getting about 1.8-1 on the call. I would fold here as I think that you are facing a set nearly all the time. I can't think of any other hands that would do this.

jetsetboy · #3 08-21-2007, 08:23 AM

He can have QJ, AsJs, AQ, combo draws like 65ss, a set, AA if he is bad enough. Wo a strong read i'm folding.

BT2 · #4 08-21-2007, 08:25 AM

what if you had a gut feeling?

jetsetboy · #5 08-21-2007, 08:28 AM

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what if you had a gut feeling?

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In this case I can either push the flop or bluff catch (c/c) the turn.

Raised2Win · #6 08-21-2007, 09:38 AM

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what if you had a gut feeling?

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Then we can't help you. It looks like a fold without it.

Kos13 · #7 08-21-2007, 10:14 AM

Fold.

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what if you had a gut feeling?

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Call.

effang · #8 08-21-2007, 11:18 AM

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villain is 21/12/3.2 after only 112 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

UTG ($382.85)
UTG+1 ($387.50)
MP1 ($179.50)
Hero ($222.85)
MP3 ($88.70)
CO ($176.35)
Button ($140.75)
SB ($206.75)
BB ($147)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $10, 2 folds, Button calls $10, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $8.

Flop: ($33) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $20, Button folds, UTG+1 raises to $50, Hero calls $30.

Turn: ($133) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $327.5 (All-In), Hero ?

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i thought the standard MO against an unknown/w/out reads here is to fold the flop?

i call here because he's aggressive, and I'm hoping he has AQ or KQ instead of JQ.

Also, since he's agg, i would definately b/3b the flop to slow him down and minimize his FDs.

Mike Kelley · #9 08-21-2007, 11:21 AM

Baluga Theorem says fold it.

BT2 · #10 08-21-2007, 11:54 AM

effang,
what is MO?

Mike,
the BWT does not apply here