Awful river, c+f?

[Bond18]

Tilt 25k guarantee $75 FO. I haven't been very active or anything, still early in tournament, no specific read on villain.


Full Tilt Poker Game #3313359338: $25,000 Guarantee (24798162), Table 22 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:24:09 ET - 2007/08/20
Seat 1: cdbr3799 (2,965)
Seat 2: kngyowell2 (4,400)
Seat 3: dolohov (2,975)
Seat 4: number1PEN (3,165)
Seat 5: dradiono (5,950)
Seat 6: eigib (1,285)
Seat 7: Kiwi_Kel (3,005)
Seat 8: muckthenuts (3,405)
Seat 9: TAMIAMI06 (3,015)
kngyowell2 posts the small blind of 25
dolohov posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to muckthenuts [Ah Ad]
number1PEN folds
dradiono folds
eigib folds
Kiwi_Kel folds
muckthenuts raises to 150
TAMIAMI06 calls 150
cdbr3799 has 15 seconds left to act
cdbr3799 calls 150
kngyowell2 folds
dolohov folds
*** FLOP *** [Ks 4h 7s]
muckthenuts bets 350
TAMIAMI06 folds
cdbr3799 calls 350
*** TURN *** [Ks 4h 7s] [8c]
muckthenuts bets 850
cdbr3799 has 15 seconds left to act
cdbr3799 calls 850
*** RIVER *** [Ks 4h 7s 8c] [Kd]
muckthenuts checks
cdbr3799 bets 1,615, and is all in
muckthenuts?


Std fold or go "flush draw missed!" and call?

[WarDekar]

I kinda want to go "flush draw missed!" and call

You would think with a K at any point he might want to raise because of the potential flush draw, I mean what K is he flatting preflop and just calling you down on the flop and turn? It doesn't make sense to me...

That said, so many times I find myself thinking "that doesn't make any sense... CALL CALL CALL" they end up having it and I'm just a moron

[bangarang3]

i think any sort of hand you're ahead of besides precisely a missed fd checks behind. would this guy put over a quarter of his stack in on the turn with just the f/d? The play early in these ft tournies is atrocious which widens his shoving range a tad but i think uve just gotta puke and fold.

[Bakes]

block this river

[Bond18]

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block this river

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How much?

[Bakes]

850-950

[shaundeeb]

blocking river sucks I am happy c/calling river.

[ZJ123]

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850-950

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and fold to a less then minraise?

im not sure i can bring myself to betting 950, him shoving for 1600 and me folding, even though its correct.

[Bakes]

after banking the turn with a draw is he really going to bluff it? maybe i meant check/fold....

but couldn't he call us with a worse hand if we bet 850 anyway?

[Todd Terry]

I think you're in too deep to turn back now, the turn bet basically committed you. It could definitely be a missed F/D repping a K, it could be a K. When in doubt, rely on the cardinal rule of online poker: never fold an overpair.