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Old 08-19-2007, 04:40 AM
modnareno modnareno is offline
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Default Bunch of 10/25 short live hands

10/25 PL live playing 4 handed. I took a shot and min bought (twice) and won a bunch of flips to get ~100BB stack. Game is very passive and straightforward. One guy is stealing most of the small pots, and one guy knows when to bet two pair on the river and no one is jamming their draws on the turn, three bets preflop are SUPER rare. Anyway


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I open for $75 OTB KQJ9, SB calls, flop is K42 w/ flushdraw, checked through, turn is a K i pot $150 he makes it $600 i call. River is a J he leads for $500, I have $2k total. Easy push or raise to a smaller amount? Also i think flop and turn are debateable too, im not sure.

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Guy limps i make it $100 OTB with KQJ9 (again!). 4 ways to the flop, A84 w/flushdraw flop is checked through. turn is a T, giving me TONS of straight outs, but no flushdraw. SUPER passive SB leads for $400 full pot. I had like $2k behind. If you call, do you have any bluffing plans?

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I open for $100 with A678ds, passive guy calls, flop is 69T w/ flushdraw he check/calls $200. I kind of think he is on a draw here, but not positive. Turn is a 6 checked through, river 4 (no flush possible) he leads out for $400 (pot is $600). Easy call since i checked the turn through? Would you rather pot the turn?

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I have $3.5k (everyone else covers) two limpers i make it $125 with KQ98ds from the SB (??). Flop is 975 two diamonds four players, i have Q9 of diamonds. I check (???), button bets pot $500. Button is very aggressive in position, but never has total air -- usually enough to call a flop CR. Plan? CR and get it in? CR and fold? Call and c/f non flushes?

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I straddle OTB 3handed, BB calls i make it $200 with QJs92, flop is 554 checked through turn 2 checked through river 8 he checks i pot.

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I raise to $100 OTB JJ9s6 4 way flop is KK5 checked through turn K SB bets $150 fold fold i call river 9 he checks. pot is $700 what size bet is good? would you rather bet like $325 on the flop?

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I raise to $100 CO/utg w/ K875r and the button calls. Flop is AJ5 he calls $200 i feel like he's on a draw. Turn is a 9 I think i have xx95 and bet $550 he calls. River is a T, final board is AJ59T and i have 87. I check and he insta shoves for $1300. Can you put him on KQ or Q8?
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Old 08-19-2007, 07:23 AM
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Default Re: Bunch of 10/25 short live hands

there are a lot of hands here, too many to get good responses.

1. I like shoving the turn. Definitely shove the river, it's not that much more.

2. I definitely call the turn. If no one else calls and the river brings a flush I probably do bet, it depends on your read of him but either you will win a lot of money value betting him or you will be able to bluff the flush, or both.
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Old 08-19-2007, 07:33 AM
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3. not easy call, read dependent. Live especially some guys just don't bluff. Also in his eyes you can definitely have a fh after you check turn.

4. pf is OK, I would just cf flop.

5. I'd probably bet the turn instead and make it 3/4 pot.

6. depends on opp, against some guys I'd just check, I'd rarely go more than 400 here against anyone. Flop check is OK, mix it up.

7. completely read dep, definitely wouldn't rule those hands out though as KQT is the most likely draw (assuming the flop is rainbow which you should prob mention)
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Old 08-19-2007, 08:20 AM
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Default Re: Bunch of 10/25 short live hands

thanks for the responses, bummed everything is so read dependent. I'm not very good at this game and am messing up that part up more then i should. The three guys i played had super different styles and it was tricky to keep up with the flow of the game too.
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Old 08-19-2007, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: Bunch of 10/25 short live hands

Where was this game?
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Old 08-19-2007, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: Bunch of 10/25 short live hands

Ya, where was this game?

1) I'd bet flop after its checked. As played easy push on river.

2) I fold.

3) I'd fold this as well. I think I'd bet the turn tho.

4) Don't like reraising from SB here. I'd lead out as played and be forced to fold to action.

5) Better to bluff this turn. Don't like pot river bluff, bet smaller.

6) $300-$400 sounds about right. Gotta bet pretty light in order to get paid off by smaller boats.

7) Fold this. On such a straight heavy board, this is almost always a value shove imo.


Obv reads will factor in, but against an unkown opponent, these are my lines here.
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Old 08-19-2007, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: Bunch of 10/25 short live hands

game was in greektown Michigan

Started as 5/10 so the Min buy was still 300 - perfect for gambling
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Old 08-19-2007, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: Bunch of 10/25 short live hands

Ya, I read about that in NVG forum. Heard it was EXTREMELY soft, maybe I'll make the trip and take a shot. They dealt it shorthanded?
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Old 08-19-2007, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: Bunch of 10/25 short live hands

1. Bet flop, check turn. Maybe half bet turn.
2. Fold.
3. Call. Checking turn is fine. Sometimes checking flop is fine too.
4. Fold as played. Maybe bet 1/2-2/3 pot instead.
5. Bluffs are better before the river.
6. Bet 300-450.
7. Fold preflop. Fold flop. Fold turn. Have you been reading about Aba's play in the 1k/2k live PLO? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Spew hand.

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Old 08-20-2007, 01:04 AM
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Default Re: Bunch of 10/25 short live hands

dont b a fish
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