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Old 08-29-2007, 01:20 PM
mrpotto mrpotto is offline
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Default QQ FTP NL$50 - Line check

Villain just sat down after buying in for $35 and I had no reads. How bad is the river call here? Was checking the flop, after re raising, horrible? Line check here please.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $61.80
UTG+1: $50
CO: $35.30
Button: $19.25
SB: $57
hero: $53.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $1.75</font>, Button calls, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $7.25</font>, CO calls, Button folds.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($16.5, 2 players)
hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($16.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets $8</font>, CO calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($32.5, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO is all-in $20.05</font>, hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $72.6
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:21 PM
Berky Berky is offline
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Default Re: QQ FTP NL$50 - Line check

Feeler on the flop fold re-raise/shove
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:27 PM
BevillTheDevil BevillTheDevil is offline
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Default Re: QQ FTP NL$50 - Line check

river call is probably bad but not sure since you look so weak, check flop weak, 1/2 PSB on turn weak, check river weak. DONT be so weak...Id probably cbet this flop which changes the hand completely.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:35 PM
mookboi mookboi is offline
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Default Re: QQ FTP NL$50 - Line check

I bet/fold like 11 on flop.
As played, if yer willing to call his AI on river, might as well go for CRAI on turn &amp; see if he gives you free river card.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:36 PM
thoman8r thoman8r is offline
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Default Re: QQ FTP NL$50 - Line check

I expect this to be slowplayed KK or AK or an underpair, since as mentioned you look pretty weak here. It's close but getting 2.5-1 I call.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

34 games 0.005 secs 6,800 games/sec

Board: 8c 5h Kh 6h 5d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 36.765% 35.29% 01.47% 12 0.50 { QcQd }
Hand 1: 63.235% 61.76% 01.47% 21 0.50 { TT+, AKs, AKo }
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:47 PM
mrpotto mrpotto is offline
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Default Re: QQ FTP NL$50 - Line check

Yea in retrospect this is a weak line. I've been losing a bunch with my big hands (to sets, flushes, etc.) and I've been struggling to lay them down so I played overly cautious.

As it turned out my weak served me well here as he had AQ with the A of hearts and he was drawing on the turn. If I cbet the flop, he probably would have folded, lol.

Thoman, we're neighbors, I work in Oaks and live in Lansdale, PA.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:58 PM
AZplaya AZplaya is offline
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Default Re: QQ FTP NL$50 - Line check

I'd much rather toss out an $8 - $10 feeler on the flop rather than the turn. As played, I think you gotta fold this river. Villian might be reacting to your weakness, and if so I say "nice bet" and fold...if you get a read that he is an aggrotard then this is obv fine.
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Old 08-29-2007, 02:17 PM
dmoney dmoney is offline
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Default Re: QQ FTP NL$50 - Line check

Your line is very weak, if you had 100bb effective or larger id saying checking flop sometimes is ok. however in this situation you pretty much have to cbet flop and if he calls shut down. if he raises muck.

Your flop check basically shows that you have JJ or QQ and the king scared you.

Sometimes I check behind on flop with AK (TPTK) to help induce bluffs from QQ,JJ,TT etc.

this looks like what happend to you.
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