Frequent preflop spot w/ AK

JFsports · #1 08-16-2007, 09:42 PM

Initial raiser is 33/19, 3-bettor is 24/20.
What is the standard/best line to take here?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $166.05
UTG+1: $58
CO: $221
Button: $200
JFsports: $200
BB: $197

Pre-flop: (6 players) JFsports is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $7, Button raises to $24, JFsports ..?

orange · #2 08-16-2007, 09:43 PM

either 4b/call a shove or fold.

Casper05 · #3 08-16-2007, 09:49 PM

vs these villians in those positions I 4bet

theplux · #4 08-16-2007, 10:56 PM

4bet call a shove. You're ahead of the guy's range 3beting from btn.

mrjetguy · #5 08-16-2007, 11:24 PM

4bet for sure based on stats... if they push it sucks but I think you gotta call.

FishSticks · #6 08-16-2007, 11:25 PM

I know this has been hashed over a ton, but do you guys like a 4bet to 100ish and get it in on any flop, or do you like just a straight push here with 100BB?

Anyways, these guys are aggressive, and it's the button 3betting a CO open. He is doing this with a very wide range. If it was an UTG raise initially then a 3bet from a couple tightish players, I think folding is fine.

JFsports · #7 08-17-2007, 03:41 AM

k thx, I thought 4-betting/calling shove was the best line, just seeing if other options.
I 4bet and got 2 folds anyway so all good [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

west_eh · #8 08-17-2007, 04:10 AM

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either 4b/call a shove or fold.

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What's wrong with cold calling?

Folding cant be an option yet. You are ahead of button's range, and have good equity vs. both if called by CO.

theForm42 · #9 08-17-2007, 04:12 AM

with their image and LP raise/RR your range is way ahead, well played.

tarheeljks · #10 08-17-2007, 04:18 AM

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either 4b/call a shove or fold.

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What's wrong with cold calling?

Folding cant be an option yet. You are ahead of button's range, and have good equity vs. both if called by CO.

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a raise is for value. a cold call will result in a flop c/f most of the time

edit: and offers them the opportunity to fold when we hit