Minraise okay?

[Ace_Ren]

Hey, just getting back into poker in the past couple months. I made a strange play (for me) here and I want to see what you all think of it.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP (t300)
Button (t2050)
SB (t6285)
BB (t930)
Hero (t5435)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t800</font>

By raising only the minimum, I felt that I could isolate the BB and put him all-in when I probably had a better hand. However, I did not want to put out 2.5 or 3x the BB because that would expose more of my stack to the SB. The SB was relatively timid and would give me credit for a good hand whether I had pushed 2x or all-in.

Was the minraise okay in this spot?

[hoyasaxa]

no

nonononononono

nononononononononono

if you minraise, you are opening yourself to a reraise

fold this hand for the sake of everything holy

when you do get a raiseworthy hand (not much in this spot) either limp and try to get a shorty all in or push all in yourself

this minraise is [censored] terrible

[DontTapTheGlass]

There is no need to be involved in this hand, especially out of position.

Though I understand that you want pressure on the BB, you shouldn't be the one to do it with a crap hand OOP.

[K䲰䮥n]

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There is no need to be involved in this hand, especially out of position.

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Yea you win AI coinflips more often when you have position.

[DontTapTheGlass]

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There is no need to be involved in this hand, especially out of position.

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Yea you win AI coinflips more often when you have position.

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Check his HH again.

There are three other players that wouldn't be AI if they called... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

[Ace_Ren]

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if you minraise, you are opening yourself to a reraise

fold this hand for the sake of everything holy

when you do get a raiseworthy hand (not much in this spot) either limp and try to get a shorty all in or push all in yourself

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Let's go back to the table read for a second.
MP has 300 chips and is AFK... he's almost certainly out.
BB has 900 chips. If anyone attacks, he's losing 400 or possibly all of his chips.
Button has 2K chips and with the other two guys, is looking at an easy walk into the money. He has no desire to try to reraise and risk all of his chips.

Finally, the SB, who is the key to this whole thing is the one guy I should fear, but he's a timid player. My read is that he will only call or reraise me with a good hand.

The vast majority of the time, the SB will fold. I'm a 55% favorite against random junk. The BB may fold some hands, so I might be slightly behind if he calls/raises, but conversely there's the possibility of a steal.

If he busts, it's pretty much guaranteed money. Plus I jump into 1st. Worse case scenario, I lose about 1k and am still solidly in 2nd.

The advice to limp (even with a great hand) seems horrible to me in this case. By limping, there's a very good chance the SB would get involved and later push me out. I'm not so sure that he understood much about the idea of implicit collusion.

My feeling is that by making the play I did, I'm maximizing my own profits by taking advantage of the poor timid play of the SB. Don't I come out better by minraising than if I simply fold?

(quick edit)I do understand your point though. If I thought that the SB was a smart aggressive player, I would certainly fold. As it stood, I was slightly concerned that the BB may get a freebie if I didn't do the raising.(/quick edit)

[Ace_Ren]

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There are three other players that wouldn't be AI if they called... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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Actually, only 2 other players (considering the BB at 905 chips to be AI if he call 800). And I have one of them covered. He'd be risking nearly half his stack to call while one guy is at 900 and the other is at 300 and AFK. He'd be a complete idiot to get involved.

That leaves the one guy... and I actually have position on him.

[sence25]

if SB is really that tight this can't be too bad
i wouldn't do it cuz K7 is pretty marginal even against BBs random hand, but what you just wrote makes sense

[levAA]

i understand your argument, still your hand is too weak.
MP has to jump on with any above average hand and BB has to call because of the pot-odds. you are 54% against random true, but if Button or SB wake up with a hand and push - you can never call that.

if you want to apply pressure on the BB push yourself, which minimizes risk of others jump on, still i don't think 54% is a good edge on or near the bubble, with no FE.

[JoeSchmo]

The play is fine given your read of the big stack. Folding would be fine too.