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Old 08-15-2007, 06:01 PM
BIGFISH72 BIGFISH72 is offline
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Default 50NL Lowest flopped set, push or fold?

MP2 is 15 5 2.5 over 1000+ hands
SB is u/k

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

CO ($56.40)
Button ($63.35)
SB ($28.95)
Hero ($55.90)
UTG ($51.20)
UTG+1 ($20.25)
MP1 ($50.85)
MP2 ($52.25)
MP3 ($50.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $1</font>, MP2 calls $1, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.50.

Flop: ($4) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $1</font>, Hero calls $1, MP1 calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ?

Is this an easy push?

Are we concerned about a bigger set?

Your thoughts would be most <font color="black"> </font> welcome.
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Old 08-15-2007, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: Lowest flopped set, push or fold?

I can rule out folding and calling as appropriate actions here.

That leaves one option.

Gogogogogogogogogo.
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Old 08-15-2007, 06:13 PM
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Default Re: Lowest flopped set, push or fold?

standard push! You have a set!!! if you lose to a bigger that is poker varanice.

I would have raised from after the small blind bet.
He could have two pair or anything... Get the mon ey in the pot!!!!
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Old 08-15-2007, 06:24 PM
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Default Re: Lowest flopped set, push or fold?

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standard push! You have a set!!! if you lose to a bigger that is poker varanice.

I would have raised from after the small blind bet.
He could have two pair or anything... Get the mon ey in the pot!!!!

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Agreed on raising the SB bet on the flop - probably raising it $3 or $4.

If you lose to another set, then hey, it sucks, but then why else play 5/5 if you're looking to get your money all in when you have the nuts and you're almost assured not to have the nuts on the flop.
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Old 08-15-2007, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: Lowest flopped set, push or fold?

OK, so am I correct in assuming that we should never concern ourselves with the possibilty of being dominated by a bigger set when either pushing or calling a shove on the flop, regardless of any previous reads/stats on a player?



Result to follow......
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Old 08-15-2007, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: Lowest flopped set, push or fold?

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OK, so am I correct in assuming that we should never concern ourselves with the possibilty of being dominated by a bigger set when either pushing or calling a shove on the flop, regardless of any previous reads/stats on a player?

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Um, no.

If you're very deep stacked or have a supremo read it is something to be concerned with. But generally, in a multi-way pot against unknowns and only 150bbs deep, you want as much money in the middle as possible.
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Old 08-15-2007, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: Lowest flopped set, push or fold?

well the outcome

Hero pushes all in, both call

MP2 has JJ set of J's

SB mucks 10 J 2 pr

Thanks to all those who commented and good point raised about my lack of raise on the flop!

Ian
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:23 PM
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Default Re: Lowest flopped set, push or fold?

never fold a set on the flop unless your opponent is wearing a set mining hat, and his set mining canarie bird has died
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: Lowest flopped set, push or fold?

LOL
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