25/50 Flop Top Two Now I Need a Plan

Equal · #1 08-13-2007, 05:42 PM

Villain is a very good 24/19 TAG, whats my line? He's not stacking off with AK/AQ.

$25/$50 No Limit Holdem
6 players

Stacks:
UTG ($1741.00)
UTG 1 ($5098.00)
CO ($12187.00)
BTN ($9421.00)
Hero ($4950.00)
BB ($6888.00)

Pre-flop: ($75, 6 players) Hero is SB A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls $50, UTG 1 raises to $225, 2 folds, Hero calls $200, 1 fold, UTG folds

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($550, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG 1 bets $375, Hero?

AZK · #2 08-13-2007, 05:51 PM

why do you people never lead?

Kala1928 · #3 08-13-2007, 05:53 PM

call

what happens on the turn?

Equal · #4 08-13-2007, 06:05 PM

Please give reasons for each?

9cao · #5 08-13-2007, 06:43 PM

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why do you people never lead?

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You should either lead often, or practically never and with 100 bb stacks I think never is a much better strategy.

rcs1537 · #6 08-13-2007, 10:11 PM

id give him a gut check raise

Equal · #7 08-14-2007, 12:35 AM

I'm don't mean to be an ass, but we all know the options: lead out, check-call, check-raise, hell even check-fold, but that's not what's important - what is important are the REASONS WHY you like one line over another.

rcs1537 · #8 08-14-2007, 01:19 AM

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I'm don't mean to be an ass, but we all know the options: lead out, check-call, check-raise, hell even check-fold, but that's not what's important - what is important are the REASONS WHY you like one line over another.

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I'd c/r then push the turn (if he called)... if he re-raised the flop after you c/r, you'd then have a decision to make.

kaj_kyle · #9 08-14-2007, 02:33 AM

i just call, i dont c a reason to raise all it does it create a whole bunch of bad spots

Isura · #10 08-14-2007, 01:41 PM

I don't like a c/r here. Because of UTG's stack I don't think he has stuff like a bare FD or T9 that often. So the only draw is Axss, and stuff like KJ that might peel a card (but probably will fold). His pf range is probably close to Ax, KJ, 55. Of that, he's not going to stack off with AK/AQ so easily, but he probably calls a small c/r and plays poker from there. I just don't think he'll call an essentially pot committing turn bet. With A9 or lower he'll probably call at least sometimes, but folds turn with a much higher frequency. There are a few turns that we don't want to see either, and we'll have an inflated pot and not know where we stand. Is he the type that likes to put in a 3rd bet on the flop in these spots (less than all-in). Some will make it like 2200 if you make it 1100 here (sometimes as a bluff obv) so you might stand to gain something that way from his bluffs, but otherwise he isn't going to float the c/r or call down light in this spot. People just don't mess around on these types of flops IME. So I think you now have to c/c, maybe get him to fire again with a small pair or protect his AK/AQ. It does leave a tough river spot, but that is the only way to play it with your line IMO. If he checks the turn I would bet the river, maybe fold on a spade or K/Q if he raises. We just let him check down his Ax/Jx on the river if we check a blank, because he's not going to valuebet too light in this spot (fear of c/r, not much worse you can call with), but he may look you up lighter. But AZK is probably right, I like a lead here to get him to bluff raise or overplay some hand