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Deep with AA , how do i play turn?
After a break of 3 weeks im a little rusty. Whats my play on turn? No stats on villian, but heard he is solid.
Party Poker No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 4 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $138 29/14/2.5 over just 40 hands. Button: $22 HERO: $144 BB: $56 Pre-flop: (4 players) HERO is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $2.5</font>, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">HERO raises to $7.5</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, Button calls. Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($30, 4 players) <font color="#cc0000">HERO bets $30</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, Button folds. Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($90, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">HERO ?</font>, <font color="#cc0000"></font>. Results: Final pot: $ |
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Re: Deep with AA , how do i play turn?
I would just fire again. You are going to find out soon where you are at anyways but you are now way ahead of the FD and KQ type hands, as well as most pocket pairs.
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Re: Deep with AA , how do i play turn?
I check turn here for pot control and to see where you're at expecting villain to check behind. There aren't many hands you're ahead of here (AQ, KK) and I find I'm often up against a set in this spot. Value bet river if villain checks behind. Re-evaluate if villain bets big.
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Re: Deep with AA , how do i play turn?
Well, with so many callers you can only stack off. If it was HU, check the flop.
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Re: Deep with AA , how do i play turn?
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I check turn here for pot control and to see where you're at expecting villain to check behind. There aren't many hands you're ahead of here (AQ, KK) and I find I'm often up against a set in this spot. Value bet river if villain checks behind. Re-evaluate if villain bets big. [/ QUOTE ] IF there was no FD on the board I agree. However you are giving them a free draw to a better hand if you check. Charge those suckers. Edit: You can not consider folding to turn raise because the pot and stack sizes dictate that if you bet turn you are committed. +EV |
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Re: Deep with AA , how do i play turn?
I don't think villain calls a potsized bet here with any FD other than AcKc. The odds just aren't there especially with the the strength hero is repping.
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Re: Deep with AA , how do i play turn?
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Well, with so many callers you can only stack off. If it was HU, check the flop. [/ QUOTE ] Why should i check the flop? regards |
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Re: Deep with AA , how do i play turn?
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[ QUOTE ] Well, with so many callers you can only stack off. If it was HU, check the flop. [/ QUOTE ] Why should i check the flop? regards [/ QUOTE ] Pot control, so that you can check call the streets. If you bet and get raised you have to fold or play a 600BB pot with one pair. |
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Re: Deep with AA , how do i play turn?
You have effective stacks of $101, so about 1 PSB left. If you're going allin you can be a 2-1 dog and still break even. I think you are winning much more than 33% of the time and you are up against a flushdraw quite often. We have gone too far and I feel we are ahead of our opponents range, so it's not a good time for pot control. It's time to plan to get it allin.
You could push now, but I feel if you make a small bet now and hope to get raised or called and put in the rest regardless (we are putting it in whatever happens now or on the river anyways) you win more on average. This way you extract a bit more from the flushdraws and weaker hands that might fold if you push now. Of course you give up some equity we have in the pot now, because sometimes the flush will come and you lose or some other card makes your opponent suck out on you. But since the pot is only $90 and we only lose a small part of it on average (maybe he sucks out 20% of the time), I think we are not giving up that much compared to the extra winnings if we play it like this. |
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Re: Deep with AA , how do i play turn?
If villian's solid, he never has a FD here after flat calling PSB on flop, his range is pretty much KK+,AQ possibly KQ and sets (and the occasional float with underpair), I check but I'm happy felting this.
Also, I think checking the flop is a mistake but I prolly bet less than pot, around $22 |
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