10-25 River Bluff Shove?

[jmxthievez]

Villain is Lent53, 25/17 and kind of mediocre imo.
My read is that he opens as much from UTG as he does from CO/BTN over a large sample, hence the reraise with KQs. Do you think that a river shove would make him fold hands like AK/AJ that he could easily be betting for value? I think he has air a lot here also.

If I want to bluff, shold I just 2 barrel the turn? I feel it's easier for a hand like AJ to call a 2 barrel than to call a shove on the river. Does it look too much like busted flush draw? Thoughts?

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($4831)
UTG ($3091)
MP ($2811)
Hero ($3047)
SB ($6544.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $85</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $300</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $215.

Flop: ($635) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $450</font>, UTG calls $450.

Turn: ($1535) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($1535) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $900</font>, Hero ...shoves?

I think my range here can definitely include an 89s type hand, or AA/QQ, tho with QQ I probably 2 barrel. I don't know good or bad spot to bluff?

[DJ Sensei]

meh. I dont like it much, and against him you really dont have to bluff that much, just take him to value country

[Equal]

Yeah I dont like it either. Those river bluffs cost so much for a small reward there just arent worth it. Especially with the busted flush draw, people talk themselves into calling because of it. I never have success with these types of bluffs anyway so I just give up in this spot.

[NLSoldier]

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Yeah I dont like it either. Those river bluffs cost so much for a small reward there just arent worth it. Especially with the busted flush draw, people talk themselves into calling because of it. I never have success with these types of bluffs anyway so I just give up in this spot.

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I dont understand how the flush draw is relevent at all unless he thinks we think he had the flush draw and is now bluffing with it and our hand has 0 SD value so we are rebluffing instead of calling....seems like a stretch to me, cuz there is nothing to indicate that hero had the flush draw.

[Equal]

That's an odd comment Soldier.

[mattaasen]

ehhh, i dont like this. Board looks sick to bluff, and i dont think he would think that ud check behind the turn with a set, which makes up a huge percentage of the legit hands u could raise on that river.

As equal said, the draws missed, and i agree with that making this a worse board to bluff. I almost kind of liek this on a dry board, because i think u can rep something alot better and get called a lot less. But as is, i think this is kinda bad

[MYNAMEIZGREG]

This is bad you really need to have AQ or AK here

[Isura]

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That's an odd comment Soldier.

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Not really. He is saying that hero bluffing a missed draw is not a big concern for villain since FDs are not a big part of our range here at all. And it does seem a stretch to think that villain will realize that we can put him on a bluff, and make a call with like A2.

[Hoopster81]

This is bad vs. Lent

He is totally capable of having ATo here and will felt it

[klownage]

lol so you're trying to rep 8x or smtg?

Meh, if villain isn't scared money, this is pretty bad.