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Old 08-12-2007, 04:06 AM
raindust raindust is offline
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Default Overpair and straight draw

I'm trying to learn omaha and need advice on situations such as these...


MIKEY22888 ($130.35 in chips)
PIGFARMER1 ($294.15 in chips)
SRSPOKER1980 ($57.95 in chips)
HERO ($56.65 in chips)
BABE88 ($119.25 in chips)
PIGFARMER1 - Posts small blind $0.25
SRSPOKER1980 - Posts big blind $0.50
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Kd Kh 10h Jc]
HERO - Raises $1.75 to $1.75
BABE88 - Folds
MIKEY22888 - Calls $1.75
PIGFARMER1 - Calls $1.50
SRSPOKER1980 - Folds
*** FLOP *** [Qs 3c 10d]
PIGFARMER1 - Checks
HERO - Bets $4.50
MIKEY22888 - Raises $9 to $9
PIGFARMER1 - Raises $37.25 to $37.25
HERO?????

Is this normally a fold? I'm having trouble in these situations, especially OOP.
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Old 08-12-2007, 04:32 AM
Silent A Silent A is offline
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Default Re: Overpair and straight draw

Fold like you're holding 2222.

You have a weak made hand (KK) and a moderate draw (open end straight draw). In Hold Em. this combination is a monster. In Omaha it's nothing special at all.

If this was heads up, you could argue that villain either has a better made hand or a better draw, but probably not both. If you throw in some fold equity, you could potentially consider a raise. Maybe. It would be player dependent.

However, this is multi-way and both your opponents have expressed a lot of love for this flop. In order to be justified continuing, your opponents must either both have a draw or both have a better made hand. If either of these is the case, you have enough equity to go all in. Against two better made hands with random side cards, you're flipping 3-ways (with co-ordinated side cards it's a lot worse). Against 2 big draws (really, only AKJx) you're about 50/25/25.

However, it is more likely that one of them has a better draw and the other has a better made hand. If this is the case, your equity is terrible and you must fold because you'll be on the bad end of a 20/30/50 pot.
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Old 08-12-2007, 07:20 AM
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Default Re: Overpair and straight draw

Everything Silent A said plus you have not invested much in the pot yet, and a deepstack has checkraised from the SB. This is a very strong signal of strength in this hand.
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Old 08-12-2007, 09:06 AM
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Default Re: Overpair and straight draw

Pigfarmer's checkraise after a bet and a raise means you're in trouble. Your kings aren't good and you draw is weak. Gotta fold.
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