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Old 08-09-2007, 08:48 AM
ama0330 ama0330 is offline
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Default Shoving over a donkbet in a 3bet pot

Villain is 16/11/oo but only over about 100 hands. My image is really active, like 23/19/9.0

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $106.23
BB: $120.14
UTG: $225.16
CO: $113.48
Hero (BTN): $115.46

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $4.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $13.50</font>, SB calls $13.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($32) 9 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $18.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $101.96</font>
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Old 08-09-2007, 08:52 AM
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Default Re: Shoving over a donkbet in a 3bet pot

On ftp this would be fine.

On party they do this with 89s and call the shove.
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Old 08-09-2007, 08:53 AM
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Default Re: Shoving over a donkbet in a 3bet pot

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On ftp this would be fine.

On party they do this with 89s and call the shove.

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whats your range for villain? thats the bit I had trouble with
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Old 08-09-2007, 08:56 AM
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Default Re: Shoving over a donkbet in a 3bet pot

Its usually A9 type of thing.
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Old 08-09-2007, 08:57 AM
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Default Re: Shoving over a donkbet in a 3bet pot

In that first reply of mine I missed villains stats. I'd be surprised if he shows up with 89s here.

Villain is a nit, so it's kinda hard to tell. I don't think he has a set here, pretty sure he would check to induce cbet.

TT-QQ maybe? Makes sense kind of. It's really hard to say if he folds TT/JJ to the shove. It's possible but really close.

He's a nit so I don't think he ever has a 9 here after calling a 3bet.
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Old 08-09-2007, 08:57 AM
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Default Re: Shoving over a donkbet in a 3bet pot

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Its usually A9 type of thing.

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A9 probably raises preflop (especially A9s), but I'm pretty sure it lets it go when hero 3bets.
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:13 AM
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Default Re: Shoving over a donkbet in a 3bet pot

I really hate it, because u get called too often to make it profitable?

I dont think Ten's would donk into you.. Maybe J's. Basicly what would donk into you? how crazy is your image that he doesnt respect your preflop 3bets?
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:21 AM
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Default Re: Shoving over a donkbet in a 3bet pot

what are you shoving over this donkbet with? if you aren't shoving overs then are you just folding overs everytime he donks into you? So basically everytime you 3bet him light and dont hit the flop hard he can just own you by donking into you?
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:24 AM
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Default Re: Shoving over a donkbet in a 3bet pot

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what are you shoving over this donkbet with? if you aren't shoving overs then are you just folding overs everytime he donks into you? So basically everytime you 3bet him light and dont hit the flop hard he can just own you by donking into you?

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i dont think you will see many flops against him... If theyr both 25/20 you would have a good point.. But i would probably fold here. You MIGHT consider floating here tho, thoughts on that?
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:43 AM
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Default Re: Shoving over a donkbet in a 3bet pot

I believe this donk is a over pair but not KK or AA. This play is pure read based. Will this guy give you credit for AA or KK and fold.
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