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Old 08-09-2007, 11:13 AM
ledders07 ledders07 is offline
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Default $3 JJ overpair on flop 1st lvl

I limped JJ UTG 1st level, I think this was correct to start.
Flop is very multiway and i lead out with the overpair, get min-raised by unknown villain.

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Hero (t2940)
UTG+1 (t1880)
MP1 (t1920)
MP2 (t1040)
MP3 (t2600)
CO+1 (t1860)
CO (t1540)
Button (t1980)
SB (t2280)
BB (t1960)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero calls t40, UTG+1 calls t40, MP1 calls t40, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t40, CO+1 calls t40, CO calls t40, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t20, BB checks

Flop: (t260) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t200</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to t400</font>
Evryone folds to HERO...
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Old 08-09-2007, 11:17 AM
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Default Re: $3 JJ overpair on flop 1st lvl

i'd push allin but in the future you should always open raise JJ.
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Old 08-09-2007, 11:18 AM
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Default Re: $3 JJ overpair on flop 1st lvl

Push.
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Old 08-09-2007, 11:19 AM
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Default Re: $3 JJ overpair on flop 1st lvl

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i'd push allin but in the future you should always open raise JJ.

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From past experience JJ seems to be the borderline. I'm personally fine with limping JJ UTG but I won't bash anyone who raises it.
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Old 08-09-2007, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: $3 JJ overpair on flop 1st lvl

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i'd push allin but in the future you should always open raise JJ.

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From past experience JJ seems to be the borderline. I'm personally fine with limping JJ UTG but I won't bash anyone who raises it.

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it is a $3. start building a pot...
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Old 08-09-2007, 11:24 AM
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Default Re: $3 JJ overpair on flop 1st lvl

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i'd push allin but in the future you should always open raise JJ.

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From past experience JJ seems to be the borderline. I'm personally fine with limping JJ UTG but I won't bash anyone who raises it.

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it is a $3. start building a pot...

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This argument regarding JJ in EP has been going on for years. I'm actually more inclined to limp at the micro buy-ins and raise at higher buy-ins.
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Old 08-09-2007, 11:37 AM
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Default Re: $3 JJ overpair on flop 1st lvl

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i'd push allin but in the future you should always open raise JJ.

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From past experience JJ seems to be the borderline. I'm personally fine with limping JJ UTG but I won't bash anyone who raises it.

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it is a $3. start building a pot...

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This argument regarding JJ in EP has been going on for years. I'm actually more inclined to limp at the micro buy-ins and raise at higher buy-ins.

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this is why i was unsure preflop. But it didn't seem right at the time. It was a woman, and she took the amount of time that makes you think she had 2pair etc, so I called and then check-folded to a 3/4PSB on the turn
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Old 08-09-2007, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: $3 JJ overpair on flop 1st lvl

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It was a woman, and she took the amount of time that makes you think she had 2pair etc

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Old 08-09-2007, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: $3 JJ overpair on flop 1st lvl

Calling and evaluating a turn is awful imo. At this buy in I would probably stack off because a hand like A9 will always call.

it is ridiculous to try to put someone on a hand based on their avatar/timing
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Old 08-09-2007, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: $3 JJ overpair on flop 1st lvl

should i come out with a "playing JJ hand in low buy in sngs" thread also? [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]


usually raising pf as well fwiw, and at this point im just stacking off on the flop in a limped pot.
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