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Old 08-07-2007, 10:51 AM
recallme recallme is offline
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Default Ok i am way ahead, but?

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Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $907.16
Button: $970
hero: $972
BB: $1715

Pre-flop: (4 players) hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $40</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $140</font>, BB folds, Button calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($290, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets $200</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $450</font>.

This seems pretty idiotic, but my question is:
What`s more +EV?
Shoving or calling and c/c turn lead river?
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:52 AM
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Default Re: Ok i am way ahead, but?

think and call or shove, doesn't matter too much
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:56 AM
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Default Re: Ok i am way ahead, but?

just shove
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:02 AM
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Default Re: Ok i am way ahead, but?

Just shove, if hes got a flushdraw he might shut down on the turn if he misses and otherwise he wants to get it in as much as you do.

shove
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:02 AM
1o BoY 1o BoY is offline
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Default Re: Ok i am way ahead, but?

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just shove

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or wait for scare cards [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:08 AM
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Default Re: Ok i am way ahead, but?

easy shove in my eyes.
He could check behind the turn with a draw.
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:09 AM
Montezuma21 Montezuma21 is offline
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Default Re: Ok i am way ahead, but?

[ QUOTE ]

This seems pretty idiotic, but my question is:
What`s more +EV?
Shoving or calling and c/c turn lead river?

[/ QUOTE ]

sorry if this is a basic question, but why is c/c turn lead river preferable to c/r turn. i see this line a lot at MSNL (i play 200NL) and i very rarely use it (i either c-r turn or push flop). how does the drawiness of the board affect the decision?

thanks.
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:13 AM
recallme recallme is offline
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Default Re: Ok i am way ahead, but?

C/c is already all in. The lead river is only used if he checks behind.

The question is, is it worth more to get the money vs a draw here or perhaps hold the bluff in the hand.
against any ace i get money in nevertheless1
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